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Which one do you guys prefer as a general all around cartridge? Anything from antelope to elk.
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Anything but a .270! 
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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The 7-08 is inferior to the 270 in all regards , as the 270 is not as nearly as good of a choice as the 7-08 would be.
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Anything but a .270! Duh...+1
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Anything but a .270! LOL oh boy forgot about the 270 haters.
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The 7-08 is inferior to the 270 in all regards , as the 270 is not as nearly as good of a choice as the 7-08 would be. ever thought of running for public office?..politics might be your calling There isn't much difference between the two...a couple hundred fps at most...hey, wait, that's about the same diff between a 280 and a 280AI, and we all know how much gooder the 280AI is than the 280... 
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The 7-08 is inferior to the 270 in all regards , as the 270 is not as nearly as good of a choice as the 7-08 would be. What? If the 7-08 is inferior to the .270, how is a better choice than the .270?
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Most don't hate the .270...it's just that the cartridge is boring because there is not much it can't do in the game fields of North America. 
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I've used both a lot but i'll put my hand up for the 7mm-08. I hunted exclusively with the 7mm for about a decade, and it was a good decade! I just can't see that the difference is great enough to justify going from short action to long action. So it is really just that i am one of the few folks who prefers short actions, rather than anything to do with ballistics. 270 is defintitely a much better option if you don't handload. My handloading skills and patience are minimal (i'm one of the guys who will essentially only work up a single load per rifle), and sometimes the lack of options in factory 7mm-08 ammunition annoyed me - especially as my rifle seemed to prefer 120 to 140 grain pills.
But i'm a young'n and these imperial measures confuse me!
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.270 is so boringly efficient that even P. O. Ackley couldn't improve it that much. Who wants a round like that... And it runs at 60K pressure without a burp, no pressure spikes, no "governor" on the "carburetor" to keep it from coming apart. Like the Energizer Bunny, it just keeps on keeping on. Because of the above reasons, I don't shoot one, don't like them...  I like rounds that need to be worked on and messed with to do well...  But I'm not normal. I'm a Loony...  For everything else, there's MasterCard... DF
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270. Only gotten better with time. Most are easy to get along with as they tend to Not be finicky about bullets or loads.
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After owning a 243 for 4 yrs. i'm starting to like short actions also,even though i really don't think there's any distinct advantage from one to the other. Going from an 30-06 to a 243 i like the lighter recoil.
I'm going to start reloading in the very near future so that eliminates the ammo availibility issue.I've got quite a bit of 243 brass so all i need to do is to learn how to resize it.I was in cabelas in PA. over the weekend and they had a good selection of factory ammo in 7mm08.
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Look at the available bullets in .284 vs. .277 and you will have your answer. Hint. Thank me later. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself)
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270. Only gotten better with time. Most are easy to get along with as they tend to Not be finicky about bullets or loads. Not a valid reason to pick the .270 over the 7-08. you can be talking about the 7-08 with a statement like that.
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Look at the available bullets in .284 vs. .277 and you will have your answer. Hint. Thank me later. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) Yup,no doubt much better selection in 7mm but does the 277 give you all you'll ever need ?
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Yep, the 7mm-08 is the lazy handloaders dream - everything works in it pretty well!
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I use both, and have come to love the 7-08 as a best all around and dont use 270 or -06 like I used to,or much else any more unless it is really little or really big! I do handload, so I can make the 7-08 all itcan be. This round in my very accurate Kimber is hard not to reach for. I have been using the 7-08 for aboutfive years now and use it more every year. Prior to that my best all around for years was -06,so that tells you a lot.
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Ozarks,
How's the recoil on the 7mm08 compared to the 270 ? Alot less,a little less,about the same ?
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I load a max of 45.0 grains of varget under a 120 gr NBT for my son. He has been using that since he was 9 years old. He is 14 now, and has killed about 15 deer and a number of hogs with his rifle. Recoil? It's been a while since I had a .270, but i do believe it feels less with the 7-08.
Either way, recoil is a non-issue, and does not play into the equation with either chambering.
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