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Bob, My suggestion is that you take your time on this project and look at the actions and actions on rifles that you see. Look not only at what your smith has but at gunshops, shows and the range. In my view the Rem. 721/722 series and later the 700's have been made as cheap as possible. However the design is ok for getting the assembly straight and square. Where the 700 design fall short is on aesthetics, function, quality and pride of ownership. Just look at the bolt face of one with its cheap parts and lack of CRF function. The tacked on bolt lug section, the tacked on bolt handles, the junk safety system....... Some of the little Sako's have been made really well and there are small mausers out there as well along with falling block single shots. Even a Kimber at least has the design even though they have a screw machine product look to some extent. Here is a classic made by the late Floyd Butler. I will put this rifle up against any Rem. (700) ever made for desirability. S99
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Liking the sound of this rig! Great chambering.
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Where the 700 design fall short is on aesthetics, function, quality and pride of ownership.
Just look at the bolt face of one with its cheap parts and lack of CRF function. The tacked on bolt lug section, the tacked on bolt handles, the junk safety system.......
Who the F are you to say what instills pride in another man? I'd be way more prideful of a 700 I built myself than I would be for that fine falling block bought off the shelf. Hell, I'm more proud of my Savage 111 than I am over any 10 rifles bought off the shelf.
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Not a thing wrong with either Bob. Sakos do have an appeal all there own. Garcia era Sako actions are smooth as silk and excellant. If your planning on running a hubble, then I'd check out what type of scope mounts you can get for the Sako. Its going to be limited compared to the 700. Parts wise, smith wise, and other wise 700s are the Harley Davidson of the rifle action crowd. No real limit to aftermarket parts and everyone works on them. Classic stocks are great for hiding recoil.But a 6XC isnt going to kick you enough to matter.If you like the classic pattern then by all mean have at it.But for someone like myself,..im 6'6" ..rather large...The classic stock is built for little people with little tiny hands and no necks. I perfer the McMillian general purpose HTG...GP/HTG.It can be ordered in edge... bondo patch I have one thats very light. Just about all my chuck guns have McMillian HBR stocks on them.HBR stands for hunter bench rest. ![[Linked Image]](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/dave7mm/2005_0112Image0004-1.jpg) The rifle above is a 17 Mach IV with a Shilen #5.The forend is 2.25 wide and is flat for riding a sand bag. If your going to be spending time on the bench with your 6XC this might not be a bad way to go.They will hang with full on BR rigs off a bench. ![[Linked Image]](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/dave7mm/huntbike2010a054.jpg) Never had a problem with them in the field. ![[Linked Image]](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/dave7mm/2008pig178.jpg) Keep us posted Bob. dave
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Rem 700 in either the Classic or the McMillan Sporter That is how I would go as well. I am as you know in the minority that much prefers the Sporter to the Classic. The more open grip fits me better, and I like the pear shaped foreend as compared to the squarish design of the Classic. With that contour barrel I would go standard fill.
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Bob, My suggestion is that you take your time on this project and look at the actions and actions on rifles that you see. Look not only at what your smith has but at gunshops, shows and the range. In my view the Rem. 721/722 series and later the 700's have been made as cheap as possible. However the design is ok for getting the assembly straight and square. Where the 700 design fall short is on aesthetics, function, quality and pride of ownership. Just look at the bolt face of one with its cheap parts and lack of CRF function. The tacked on bolt lug section, the tacked on bolt handles, the junk safety system....... Some of the little Sako's have been made really well and there are small mausers out there as well along with falling block single shots. Even a Kimber at least has the design even though they have a screw machine product look to some extent. Here is a classic made by the late Floyd Butler. I will put this rifle up against any Rem. (700) ever made for desirability. S99 AGAIN......you offer absolutely nothing to this thread!
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I'd go Ruger with a tang saftey
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Bob, Think trigger, fast locktime, cylindrical bedding surface, bases with 20 MOA of downhill for extended range. That'd be the way I'd be thinking as well. Order the Jewell and get it done! Dober
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Run the bolt on both and you will pick the Sako....
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WOW! Guys thanks for all the great advise! Isn't until you do a build like this you realize how much knowledge there is on here! Geeez my head is spinning! ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) Lots to think about.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I'd go Remington with a McMillan Compact pattern stock, if that barrel contour will fit; if not, the Classic pattern would be my next choice.
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Thank you. GAP camo in white gray and black. It grows on you. dave
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Bob,
You do know that the 6XC has the "legs" to do 1000 yard work ...dont you? Just tryen to help ....
dave
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Thank you. GAP camo in white gray and black. It grows on you. dave Funny, looks like tri-color green on my laptop screen. Cool none the less.
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I am a huge Sako fan. have a few L579's , AII's (what exact action are you thinking about ?). I am also a huge Rem 700 fan, the biggest difference between the two is the trigger Jewell does not make one for a Sako and the Jewell for the Remington is the standard.............
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700 action and get a PT&G bolt
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Bob,
You do know that the 6XC has the "legs" to do 1000 yard work ...dont you? Just tryen to help ....
dave Yes Dave.. ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) guys at the club shoot it, and tell me so. Only thing is I don't know where they shoot around here for practice. Have to look into that.My club only runs to 600. I may have to move to PA..... ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I am a huge Sako fan. have a few L579's , AII's (what exact action are you thinking about ?). I am also a huge Rem 700 fan, the biggest difference between the two is the trigger Jewell does not make one for a Sako and the Jewell for the Remington is the standard............. rockchuck I think I want to say it's an "A" series(?)....I know it isn't a pre garcia Sako....one that came after that...I don't know my Sako's as good as I should....but it is a very nice action.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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