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Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Siskiyous6 #6164148 02/11/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna
crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Originally Posted by siskiyous6 Better choice than a 270 - Just saying.... "Just Saying" ? You ever heard of Josea Sarber ? Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

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Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Siskiyous6 #6164157 02/11/12
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prairie_goat Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,910 Likes: 1 Montana	Originally Posted by siskiyous6 Better choice than a 270 - Just saying.... Bullschit.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 prairie_goat #6164168 02/11/12
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kciH Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691	Get close, shoot it in the vitals, kneecap the cameraman and attain a safe distance to see what happens. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 kciH #6164207 02/11/12
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websterparish47 Campfire Outfitter W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 8,573 Northwest corner of Louisiana	I was saddened to read that Clint died recently. Last edited by websterparish47; 02/11/12.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164256 02/11/12
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Jocko_Slugshot Campfire Tracker J Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,927 De-tox	Originally Posted by crossfireoops Originally Posted by siskiyous6 Better choice than a 270 - Just saying.... "Just Saying" ? You ever heard of Josea Sarber ? Sarber's adventures were documented in some of Jack O'Connor's articles. I remember reading about him a long time ago. Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.

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Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Jocko_Slugshot #6164269 02/11/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna
crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Certainly was an influence on MY choice of caliber for the Great Northwest. I guess I was to young and dumb to understand that alla' those one shot kills weren't "dead enough". GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164335 02/11/12
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OP eyeball Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856	10-4 there. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 eyeball #6164356 02/11/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna
crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Given the great big "smoking Holes" that one got with cup and core "Hardware Store" bullets than, I can only BEGIN to imagine what these newer ones deliver, in terms of killing performance. These A-Maxes I'm playing with right now are a real treat,....in terms of wicked accuracy. The BASIC "Formula" for alla' this has been in place since us white muzzled types were pups, and Cactus Jack had it NAILED when he said "ANY modern high intensity cartridge". Hell he included the mossy 7 X 57 in that mix. I can't but agree, SHOT PLACEMENT kills, not numbers. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164369 02/12/12
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Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,785 Likes: 4 Eastern Nebraska	Well, it ain't a 30-30 but practically the same. “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Calhoun #6164381 02/12/12
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crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	I just regret, and lean towards decrying using some fine Grizzly Bear as a pincushion, or "Ballistics experiment". We all KNOW what's happened re: killing them,.....whatever the point of INTENTIONALLY going after one with something that light is eluding me. I'm good with using what you HAVE, and doing that well. Just MISSING the point of this whole "Show". Dittos on filing off the front sight, it would serve the grandstanding goofball right. "Timmy does Ballistics" sounds like a new folky C&W song. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

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Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Calhoun #6164390 02/12/12
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Jocko_Slugshot Campfire Tracker J Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,927 De-tox	Originally Posted by Calhoun Well, it ain't a 30-30 but practically the same. I love the gun ads from the "olden" days. I can remember when Savage featured missionary Harry Caldwell with a large tiger he killed in China with a .22 High Power Model 99. And then Roy Chapman Andrews bumped off a bunch of Mongolian big game with his .250/3000 Savage 99. Last edited by Jocko_Slugshot; 02/12/12. Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Jocko_Slugshot #6164397 02/12/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna
crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	The one of the Packer and his string up on some impossible ledge, face to face with a bellicose Ursus, unlimbering his trusty Savage would be in my list of favorites. Old Elmer and those "H.V." guys sure went round and round, didn't they ? GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164412 02/12/12
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AKHntr Campfire Regular A Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,661	22 LR is the best caliber for grizzlies. They don't feel death coming on. Three well placed rounds and wait five minutes and get to skinning. Holes sew up with two stiches each.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 AKHntr #6164415 02/12/12
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crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	absolutely Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164420 02/12/12
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kciH Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691	The problem with this sort of thing, if not done properly, is that it's on TV in front of God and everyone. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 kciH #6164430 02/12/12
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crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Got it. Want a big American Bear ? .375,......blam,.....DONE. "Media" lionizing "Small Caliber Plinking /Sniping" presents some ethical problems, but surprises me not in the least. Ya' gotta' wonder what Rob Ruark would have had to say on this. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164436 02/12/12
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Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,278 Likes: 13	Originally Posted by crossfireoops Ya' gotta' wonder what Rob Ruark would have had to say on this. GTC I don't know but I bet Karamojo Bell woulda said "bring it on", shot the damn bear in the gourd and been done with it.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 Siskiyous6 #6164440 02/12/12
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BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by siskiyous6 Better choice than a 270 - Just saying.... Funny stuff as always on here.....a grizzly hit properly with a 270 and a good bullet is a "goner".... Research may disclose...at one time anyway, the World Record grizzly was killed with a 30-30;the story showing up in Outdoor Life in the good old days.....and the World Record Polar Bear, with a 270 Winchester. I'm also pretty sure the record brown bear fell to a 30/06...I guess these folks were not scared of bears like many internet posters.... Look it up. Last edited by BobinNH; 02/12/12. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 BobinNH #6164443 02/12/12
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Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,278 Likes: 13	I also remember reading the story of a huge Grizzly killed by an Inuit woman with one shot from a .22 rimfire in Outdoor Life.

Re: Going for grizzly with a 30-30 crossfireoops #6164446 02/12/12
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Jocko_Slugshot Campfire Tracker J Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,927 De-tox	Originally Posted by crossfireoops The one of the Packer and his string up on some impossible ledge, face to face with a bellicose Ursus, unlimbering his trusty Savage would be in my list of favorites. Old Elmer and those "H.V." guys sure went round and round, didn't they ? GTC Yah, nothing got Elmer going like those "damn, light high-speed bullets" as he used to refer to them. OTOH, it was hard for Elmer to write a column without mentioning Speer's 275-grain .338 bullet. The way he praised that slug, one would have thought he was getting a royalty on each one that Speer sold. Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.

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