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My Sig 232 is accurate and dependable. Oh, no plastic parts either!
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Problem with a Sig 232, its not really pocket sized, by my standards. Best .380 on the market though.
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Psalm 19:14-May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer. _ Humble servant of Jesus Christ. Living His plan and praying to show it in name, word, body, and light.
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Something about the Kel-Teks leave me cold. Fit and finish certainly isn't up there with some others. As for all you S&W J-frame fans, I have one (642). Ditto for Kahr MK-9 or PM9. (I have the MK-9 Elite). Just looking for something smaller, slimmer, lighter and semiauto -- but, above all, reliable.
Leaning toward the LCP, but still researching... Anything smaller than them and you're going to find it hard to hold onto and the trigger is going to suck. I work in a large gunshop/range and find it funny how many people want the smallest gun made and then want to add extended mags and finger extensions. They have it in their heads that they still have the small gun that they started out with. I find this especially with G26's. They always want one but then want me to put on a Pearce extension. I pull out a G19 and show how little difference there is and explain about the much smaller capacity but they still want the 26 because it's "smaller" (to start out with).
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The only gun that gets traded in more than a Glock 26 is a Glock 27. One of those "good ideas" at first blush that really isn't.
Anything smaller than a G19 should be thought of as a BUG (backup gun). If all you are carrying is a 380, then you aren't really carrying, or barely so. Or, as Massad Ayoob says, "That's the gun I carry when I'm not carrying a gun."
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LCP with a belt clip.
In hot weather I pack this pistol wearing shorts and an untucked tanktop . Did just that at the local police K9 competiton last summer, with the place crawling with cops, and none the wiser. (I have a concealed handgun licence)
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Colt Detective Special with hammer shroud, because it's dead reliable and I can shoot it better than I can shoot the alloy frame version or a Smith J-frame - plus there's that extra shot compared to the Smiths.
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I have utilized the same old Model 38 Smith for 40 years.
Naught's had, alls spent When desire is got without content
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Kahr PM 9... night sights, Crimson Trace.... Always goes bang and with the laser sight accurate enough to serve as a top shelf trail gun.... High Noon pocket holster.
Some pants have deep enough back pockets to hold it.... That make for a very fast draw..... Front pocket from a seated position... Not so fast... I need to pick up an IWB holster designed to be used with the laser....
I may pick up a CM 9 so I can fool with cast bullets in one....
The trigger took some getting used to because it's so long... Not a problem now though.... Recoil even with hot loads is a non issue.
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The smallest one I own is a Sig P238, which has a good reputation. Mine, unfortunately, does not run very well. It appears at times to have too weak of a recoil spring. I did more checking last weekend, and did find that the extractor had a little too much tension. I strengthened the spring slightly, and took out a bit of extractor tension, so we'll see how it runs this weekend.
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I've got a Keltec .32 and a Ruger LCP. I'm going to give the .32 to my oldest daughter as soon as I get a chance to shoot the Ruger.
The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass
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Your Top Choice in a Pocket Pistol? S&W J-frame.........I have 2, a 442 & a 340PD. 135 gr. Gold Dot short Barrel loads. IMO, way easier to handle than a small auto........I just don't like the way they shoot compared to the J's. MM
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Kel tec fit & finnish? Function is what matters, and of course concealilibity
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Yep, we are not talking heirloom guns here, just work-a-day carry guns.
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Old cat turd!
"Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison.
I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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My top choice is a 642. It fits well and doesn't snag or print.
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Revolver? 442/642
Semi-auto? Kel-Tec P3AT.
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Kel Tec 32 or S&W Model 37 Airweight.
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Fits in the pocket and it's 9mm
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Clipdraw on an LCP, will go anywhere. http://www.clipdraw.com/
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