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http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/13/o...right-to-keep-arms-but-not-to-bear-them/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/illinois-concealed-carry-_n_1258838.html

http://newsbusters.org/forum/latest-news/sue-myerscough-rules-no-right-bear-arms-outside-home

It would appear that Judge Sue Myerscough believes that the 2A ends at your front door. In her fundamentally flawed ruling in the District Court for the Central District of Illinois, Judge Myerscough states:

The full opinion can be found via pdf here: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/inde...ch&section=attach&attach_id=7582

The Second Amendment Foundation is, of course, appealing this ridiculous ruling. Fortunately, Judge Myerscough's ruling is so incredibly narrow that it will be very easy and on-point for an appeal to overturn her idiocy.

If you're not an SAF member yet, become one. THIS is the schit that SAF fights against (and wins against) in courts all over the country.






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I sent them money just last week. I am a life member of the NRA, but believe donations would be better spent with the SAF.



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Applaude and cheer the NRA
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I damn well am not neither. You watch your mouth there boy.








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I'm gonna join the SAF, soon as I get back from Starbucks grin

Thanks for the info VA.

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I suspect that when decisions such as this reach the Supremes (and some WILL) there may just be a change of heart from Breyer. A guy with US Marshals to protect him (they were off somewhere)and his wife along with 2 guests got robbed at machete point. He learned that ya just can't find a cop when you really really need one. Best yet, he was TRAVELLING as in his vacation home in the Islands. This may have a profound influence on his outlook for future SA decisions.


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Thanks for the heads up. Wasn't familiar with SAF but just did a little research and joined.

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And some (included in this thread) still don't see the difference between the parties.

5-4 can become 4-5 or 3-6 if Barry is re-elected. Some naively thought Heller was the final word and that the liberal courts would all bow down and respect it. We've seen several decisions since Heller that show just how much the leftist courts will twist and distort until such time as they can get a Supreme Court in their favor and then there little chance of undoing the damage.


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SAF is doing the job the NRA has been talking about doing for years.


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If not for the NRA, there would not have been a Supreme court favorable to Heller.

SAF is able to do things the NRA isn't built to do and the NRA does things the SAF couldn't fathom doing. Instead of trying to pit one against the other, gun owners should recognize that they are two edges of the same sword.


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I need to join the SAF, and upgrade my NRA membership, also.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
SAF is doing the job the NRA has been talking about doing for years.
That's for sure.


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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
The Second Amendment Foundation is, of course, appealing this ridiculous ruling. Fortunately, Judge Myerscough's ruling is so incredibly narrow that it will be very easy and on-point for an appeal to overturn her idiocy.
And that's the problem. There is absolutely no consequence imposed on these activist judges. "Overturned on appeal." Big whoop! mad


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Originally Posted by Foxbat
If not for the NRA, there would not have been a Supreme court favorable to Heller.

SAF is able to do things the NRA isn't built to do and the NRA does things the SAF couldn't fathom doing. Instead of trying to pit one against the other, gun owners should recognize that they are two edges of the same sword.
Exactly and there are likely local state specifics group doing very real things that neither group could or would do.
Georgia has one for example. http://georgiacarry.org/ and they are very VERY effective.


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Originally Posted by GeauxLSU
Originally Posted by VAnimrod
The Second Amendment Foundation is, of course, appealing this ridiculous ruling. Fortunately, Judge Myerscough's ruling is so incredibly narrow that it will be very easy and on-point for an appeal to overturn her idiocy.
And that's the problem. There is absolutely no consequence for these activist judges. "Overturned on appeal." Big whoop! mad


There's no activism to her ruling. She's technically correct, but has painted her own ruling into such a tight corner that the issue on appeal will be very easily identified.

It's ridiculous in that she refuses to rule on the merits of the case beyond the most clearly defined legal precedent. I.e., she's doing no more than the absolute minimum in the case and not adjudicating the issue before her.




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Originally Posted by GeauxLSU
Originally Posted by Foxbat
If not for the NRA, there would not have been a Supreme court favorable to Heller.

SAF is able to do things the NRA isn't built to do and the NRA does things the SAF couldn't fathom doing. Instead of trying to pit one against the other, gun owners should recognize that they are two edges of the same sword.
Exactly and there are likely local state specifics group doing very real things that neither group could or would do.
Georgia has one for example. http://georgiacarry.org/ and they are very VERY effective.


Yep, as does Virginia, the Virginia Citizens Defense League: http://vcdl.org/

And, Maryland, Maryland Shall Issue: http://marylandshallissue.org/

I'd suspect most states have such organizations.

Hmmm...

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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
The Second Amendment Foundation is, of course, appealing this ridiculous ruling. Fortunately, Judge Myerscough's ruling is so incredibly narrow that it will be very easy and on-point for an appeal to overturn her idiocy.
And that's the problem. There is absolutely no consequence for these activist judges. "Overturned on appeal." Big whoop! mad


There's no activism to her ruling. She's technically correct, but has painted her own ruling into such a tight corner that the issue on appeal will be very easily identified.

It's ridiculous in that she refuses to rule on the merits of the case beyond the most clearly defined legal precedent. I.e., she's doing no more than the absolute minimum in the case and not adjudicating the issue before her.
Not in the letter of the ruling but clearly in the INTENT of it. She's not alone. Again, no consequence to inadequacy or malicious intent from their standpoint though so why not keep on keepin' on?


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