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I wonder if the ACLU lawyers will have barf bags at their table?
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Figures.......... I just commended them in the other thread dealing with this.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Mr Fiorino, with the assistance of the ACLU has filed a Federal Civil Rights Suit against the City of Philadelphia, The Philadelphia Police Dept and the individual Officers involved for their egregious and unwarranted violations of his 1st, and 4th Amendment Rights. thats the part that I really like. The INDIVIDUAL cops involved are named in the law suit. Punishing those that did the deed is the only way we will ever stop assaults like this on our Freedom.
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It should be an interesting law suit. Mr.Fiorino tryed, unsuccessfully, to get cops to harrass him several times before a dumbass took the bait. Of course, they typical settlement will probably occur and none of it will air.
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I have always wondered, Do the police departments "insure" their officers against lawsuits? Do (can) officer purchase insurance for liability on the job? Or is that officers are rarely named because they don't have the resources to make them worth sueing?
The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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I have always wondered, Do the police departments "insure" their officers against lawsuits? Do (can) officer purchase insurance for liability on the job? Or is that officers are rarely named because they don't have the resources to make them worth sueing? That's a really good question. Our agency is insured in the amount of $1,000,000, per officer, for any incident that may occur. It is the insurance provider that always settles with the plaintiff. Officers have no personal coverage, which is why individuals are seldom sued.
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It should be an interesting law suit. Mr.Fiorino tryed, unsuccessfully, to get cops to harrass him several times before a dumbass took the bait. Of course, they typical settlement will probably occur and none of it will air. Stings work both ways it seems.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Absolutely. When reading the young man's posts last year on one of the OC forums, when this first happened, it was obvious that he was trying to get this exact thing to happen.
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Lawsuit lottery. ka'ching!!!!
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For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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It should be an interesting law suit. Mr.Fiorino tryed, unsuccessfully, to get cops to harrass him several times before a dumbass took the bait. Of course, they typical settlement will probably occur and none of it will air. amusing point of view on this case. Mr. Fiorino had previously exercised his right to open carry, yes, but never with the intent to get himself harassed. I suppose your being a cop yourself, taints your POV?
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If the LEO was pointing a loaded weapon at him and he pulled and fired his weapon and hit the LEO -- I'm sure that the man would have been arrested, If I were on the jury I would have voted --Self Defense. No one has the right to point a weapon at you in a case like that. Just my opinion. Web
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I agree.
Anyone, including LEO, better have a damn good reason for drawing down on someone. It's liable to get you killed.
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Well, look it up and read it yourself. It was posted here on the 'Fire last year when this was news.
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It should be an interesting law suit. Mr.Fiorino tryed, unsuccessfully, to get cops to harrass him several times before a dumbass took the bait. Of course, they typical settlement will probably occur and none of it will air. amusing point of view on this case. Mr. Fiorino had previously exercised his right to open carry, yes, but never with the intent to get himself harassed. I suppose your being a cop yourself, taints your POV? Not tainted at all. The cop's a dumbass and Fiorino's a gold digger. You ever heard of the "halo effect"?
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At least Fiorino is alive to sue.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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At least Fiorino is alive to sue. Why wouldn't he be? He never did anything to make the cop think he was whatever the caller said he was.
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the officer had his gun drawn, pointed at Fiorino, presumably pumped up with adrenaline from the sound of his voice, and acting hostile.
Good recipe for bad outcome it seems.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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No doubt, and I said the cop was a dumbass, but we still don't know what the caller who reported the guys as a problem told the police. Hopefully that will out in the suit too. The fight is a good one, but pretending this was just "average Joe" exercising his rights is downright silly.
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I just rolled up and didn't see one of my previous posts. It must be in the retaliatory thread.
I said they have history.
Fiorina was trying to make a point or get rich, but he is right.
You're right the cop is a dumbass and that's part of why Fiorino is lucky to be alive to sue.
I'm pretty sure we're on the same sheet o'musac Pat.
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