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I need some help...
a friend of mine inhareted some old rifles and being the good buddy he is he gave me my first hunting rifle as I just took up the sport.
To make a long story short he gave me this rifle and all he said was it would be a good first hunting rifle and that it is a Sporterized British .303 I was extatic and cleaned it took it to the range sited it in at 100yrds and got to take down my first White Tail last season.
So now as I did more research on the markings I found out that it is a Winchester M1917 .303 Now I'm located up in Southern Alberta Canada and my question is what is its worth and are these actions actual a Mauser action?
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No that is not a Mauser action but if you're referring to the Pattern 14 and Model 1917 they are a very robust action well suited to magnum cartridges.
The Pattern 14 was chambered for the 303 British while the 1917 was chambered for the 30-06.
These do have many Mauser features but with a better safety more suited to scope mounting. They also are a cock on closing action rather than the Mauser cock on opening. Great iron sights if those haven't been removed.
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See thats were I'm confused cause Mine looks identical to the 30-06 models that are sporterized and all the markings on mine are 1917 and and the serial #'s all start with a W and the bolt has a W but its chambered for .303 its definatley not a mark #4 or any of the ones with bayonets
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I need some help...To make a long story short he gave me this rifle and all he said was it would be a good first hunting rifle and that it is a Sporterized British .303 My question is what is its worth and are these actions actual a Mauser action? It sound priceless as your friend gave it to you and you took your first deer also. No, it is not a Mauser. They are large heavy actions, but are durable. Here is some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1914_Enfield
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Thanks for your help guys very much appreciated.
I looked at your link Like2shoot and my gun is definateley not the pattern 14 its the exact same as the 30-06 M1917 but chambered .303 which is funny cause I have been researching all the enfield models and makes and can't come up with any explanation for a surplused Winchester M1917 enfield .303 I don't know if it is a rare enfield or what but there seems to be noe record of a Winchester M1917 that was chambered in .303 with all the british markings
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The P14 and the M17 look identical. The 14 is designed to feed the rimmed cartridges, the 17 to feed rimless.
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If you could email pics of the bolt, the face in particular, then the mystery would be solved.
There were more than a few differences between the P-14 and P-17, most having to do with the magazine/feeding aspects.
You'd have to modify the bolt face and the magazine for a P-17 to fire a .303 Brit but I suppose it could be done.
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I answered in your other thread, see that post for a picture of my Pattern 14/17 rifle that has been much customized but still retains its bolt handle and safety etc. from its original days. Then we will all know better what you have. If it is a pattern14 or 17 it most certainly is a slightly modified and longer version of a MAuser and is a Controlled Round feed, MAuser extractor, fixed blade ejector bolt action quite suitable for building into all manner high powered and big bore cartridges. I shot my first deer with mine, too. And the next 25 or so as well.
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I shot my first deer with mine too back when I was 12. Great rifles if they are done up right......
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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There is no such thing as a Pattern 17 or P-17. If the rifle was originally chambered in 30-06 it's a US M-1917 rifle. If it was originally chambered in .303 British it's a British P-14 rifle.
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