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Thinking about getting a stainless synthetic rifle and have it boiled down to these two, I really like the fact that the Ruger is US made and incredibly rugged, but the light weight and the acuracy guaranty on the Tikka make it a strong contender. Opinions?

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I have a T3 Lite SS .243 and I love it.

I never have been able to fall in love with the Ruger.


That safety especially is a real booger for my big ape hands.


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One is built to take a beating and be reasonably accurate, the other to save weight and maximize accuracey. Pich which atribute matters most to you in a synthetic stainless rifle.

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444Matt, Are you saying the Tikka won't stand up to hard use? On what do you base your opinion? (Not challenging you, I just would like to know)

One thing I should add, is I generally only find accurate rifles interesting.

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Originally Posted by kalbrecht
444Matt, Are you saying the Tikka won't stand up to hard use? On what do you base your opinion? (Not challenging you, I just would like to know)

One thing I should add, is I generally only find accurate rifles interesting.


I actually had a good, hard look at both these rifles when buying a new 270 Win. Both were around the same price, but the ruger had the slight edge with the rings included in the price. I did go for the hawkeye (stainless with the synthetic stock) but i have since tossed the factory stock and fitted a Hogue unit with the full length bedding block.

But both rifles are good 'uns.

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Gus, what kind of accuracy were you getting with the factory stock?

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Rings come with tikkas as well smile

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Rings come with tikkas as well smile


Do they? My dealer must be doing the "shaft"????

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Originally Posted by kalbrecht
Gus, what kind of accuracy were you getting with the factory stock?


Not good - shots tended to string vertically once the bbl heated up.
Wasnt floated or bedded from the factory.

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Gus, thats really my greatest fear with the Ruger. I've had several Rugers over the years and not all were great shooters. I've got one now in .223 that is a great shooter, but when I spend the kind of money that a new rifle costs I don't like to think that I'm rolling the dice as far as accuracy goes.

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I have a friend who has a Tikka, it shoots, its light weight and he likes it. That being said it has plastic parts and quite a few of them at that. Magazine, trigger guard "bottom metal", etc.

If you are going the stainless/synthetic route for durability doesn't plastic kinda sink that ship before it ever sails? Those plastic clips are $50+ to replace.

From what I have heard and from my own observations (I have yet to shoot one but make it a point to feel one up every now and then when in the gun store) they are rugged, highly functional, dependable rifles. Even if you do have accuracy issues it seems a good bedding and trigger job will fix it. For the cost the Ruger is the better buy accuracy guarantee or not.

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I've had both and to me there is no question at all.

The Ruger is a real rifle.

The Tikka T3 is IMO a very very bad joke.

Can't think of three things I liked about my T3. Can sure think of a lot of things I hated about it though.

The T3 does have some very satisfied owners however.


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Originally Posted by Gus_K
Originally Posted by kalbrecht
Gus, what kind of accuracy were you getting with the factory stock?


Not good - shots tended to string vertically once the bbl heated up.
Wasnt floated or bedded from the factory.

Gus


Gus had the same problem I did with my Hawkey All Weather rifle. I remember when he bought that hogue stock and I walked him through bedding it as I've done to all of my rifles. Rugers can be very accurate rifles but they are more for the tinkerer to be honest. The actions can be made to be very smooth (almost like a good model 70), the triggers can be lightened with a little stone work and a lighter trigger spring. I just shot mine yesterday with a friend who shoots a very accurate savage 270 and the Hawkeye just shoots circles around it. I shot some sub moa (.75") 5 shot groups with it and handed the rifle to my friend and said here why don't you see how it does for you and he shot a nice 1" 5 shot group. He was shooting his 270 like crap for some reason, now he wants a 308 blush. I was actually impressed with his shooting with the hawkeye since generally his groups are around 2-3" 3 shot groups (which that's what his groups were with his 270). I shot 5 offhand at 100 yards with the 308 Hawkeye that landed into 2". They can be great shooters if given the proper attention. If you arn't a tinkerer then you may be better off buying the tikka. I also did like Gus K and put my hawkeye all weather in a different stock (factory hawkeye wood stock), bedded it and freefloated it just like I did to the synthetic stock and it shoots lights out. Here's how she looks now and an old target I shot with it when it had the synthetic stock on it (I like the looks of the wood better so that's how it's going to stay), it still shoots just like this with the wood stock too.:

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Here it is bedded/freefloated and sealed up with tru oil.....
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So my suggestion is if you are a tinkerer then get the Ruger, if not get the Tikka....


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Originally Posted by 444Matt
One is built to take a beating and be reasonably accurate, the other to save weight and maximize accuracey. Pich which atribute matters most to you in a synthetic stainless rifle.

I think 444Matt states the case well. I'd also add, if for some reason the Ruger doesn't shoot, I'm sure it's nothing that wouldn't be cured by simply bedding and freefloating it.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Gus_K
Originally Posted by kalbrecht
Gus, what kind of accuracy were you getting with the factory stock?


Not good - shots tended to string vertically once the bbl heated up.
Wasnt floated or bedded from the factory.

Gus


Gus had the same problem I did with my Hawkey All Weather rifle. I remember when he bought that hogue stock and I walked him through bedding it as I've done to all of my rifles. Rugers can be very accurate rifles but they are more for the tinkerer to be honest. The actions can be made to be very smooth (almost like a good model 70), the triggers can be lightened with a little stone work and a lighter trigger spring. I just shot mine yesterday with a friend who shoots a very accurate savage 270 and the Hawkeye just shoots circles around it. I shot some sub moa (.75") 5 shot groups with it and handed the rifle to my friend and said here why don't you see how it does for you and he shot a nice 1" 5 shot group. He was shooting his 270 like crap for some reason, now he wants a 308 blush. I was actually impressed with his shooting with the hawkeye since generally his groups are around 2-3" 3 shot groups (which that's what his groups were with his 270). I shot 5 offhand at 100 yards with the 308 Hawkeye that landed into 2". They can be great shooters if given the proper attention. If you arn't a tinkerer then you may be better off buying the tikka. I also did like Gus K and put my hawkeye all weather in a different stock (factory hawkeye wood stock), bedded it and freefloated it just like I did to the synthetic stock and it shoots lights out. Here's how she looks now and an old target I shot with it when it had the synthetic stock on it (I like the looks of the wood better so that's how it's going to stay), it still shoots just like this with the wood stock too.:

[Linked Image]
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Here it is bedded/freefloated and sealed up with tru oil.....
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So my suggestion is if you are a tinkerer then get the Ruger, if not get the Tikka....


You are da man bsa..............

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By all accounts the Tikka rifles are very accurate but they look cheap as all hell with all that "plasteek", the Ruger looks better built overall and should shoot plenty good. I like to take a little pride in the looks of all My guns so I have no Tikka rifles in my safe.....Good luck.........Hb

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Get the Tikka. Shoot small groups. Save $and/or time by not having to work the action, or mess w/ the trigger.

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Originally Posted by 444Matt
One is built to take a beating and be reasonably accurate, the other to save weight and maximize accuracey. Pich which atribute matters most to you in a synthetic stainless rifle.



Matt has it summed up nicely. It's like Granny Smith vs. Golden Delicious. They are both apples, but one is better for baked pies and the other is better for fried pies.


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