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Re: Looking for a dog sactoller #6221686 02/25/12
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	nice ol' flat fender aswell A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

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Re: Looking for a dog logcutter #6221702 02/25/12
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest acooper1983 Campfire Tracker
acooper1983 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest	I can honestly say my uncles drathaars are the best gun dogs ive ever been behind for all around. His dog will hunt phesant in the am, ducks in the PM, and track a blood trail the next day. If your willing to put the time in they make a great pet, with great drive and hunting. just my opinion on them. I kill chit. "The Heathens nest"

Re: Looking for a dog acooper1983 #6221731 02/25/12
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest acooper1983 Campfire Tracker
acooper1983 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,379 Midwest	and drathaars are not the same as a GSP. They are a much more controlled bred line. They are bred for function, and working, not for thier looks first. Ive never seen a drat that wouldnt hunt, i have seen some that, that is all they wanted to do however. If your interested, i can talk to my uncle and find a recommended breeder, i believe he got his last pup out west. The breeders for them are very dedicated and will ship/fly out with dogs to thier prospective owners. I kill chit. "The Heathens nest"

Re: Looking for a dog sactoller #6221732 02/25/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna
crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Originally Posted by sactoller Bump to keep the good dogs on top! Ya ! Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: Looking for a dog WyoCowboy #6221735 02/25/12
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina MadMooner OP Campfire Ranger
OP MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina	Originally Posted by WyoCowboy Griff's are great dogs but look at an Airedale. They are low sheding, great with family, and can be trained to do about anything. I have used Airedales as retrievers for years, they love the water and cold doesn't bother them. I love Airedales! Awesome dogs. If I ever need anything killed,I'd feed it to an Airedale! “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

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Re: Looking for a dog sactoller #6221738 02/25/12
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 10 NW Ohio L lee243 New Member
lee243 New Member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 10 NW Ohio	I had a Drahthar back in the 70's. It was a great dog. Retrieved doves, quail, grouse, etc. Did not do enough training to make him a reliable pointer, but they are natural pointers and also will make good water retrievers, though i did not use him for that. Very good temperment as well.

Re: Looking for a dog lee243 #6224438 02/26/12
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX sactoller Campfire Outfitter
sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX	Can we ever have better huntin' buddies? Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

Re: Looking for a dog sactoller #6225266 02/26/12
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 14,073 N Nebraska Campfire Outfitter
Nebraska Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 14,073	From what you described, maybe something like a Springer Spaniel would be a good fit..... Biden's most truthful quote ever came during his first press conference, 03/25/21. Drum roll please...... "I don't know, to be clear." and THAT is one promise he's kept!!!

Re: Looking for a dog Nebraska #6225492 02/26/12
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina MadMooner OP Campfire Ranger
OP MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina	Nice dog Sactoller! Who else has some pics? A good dog is essential to a good life. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: Looking for a dog MadMooner #6225557 02/26/12
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,407 Likes: 1 SW Missouri Cheesy Campfire Outfitter
Cheesy Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,407 Likes: 1 SW Missouri	I'm partial to GSP's. For the most part, the ones I've hunted around have been close working dogs. The one in the pics below is asleep at my feet as I type this. I've got a 1 year old, he likes to use her as a jungle gym. Her retaliation is to lick his face.

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Re: Looking for a dog Cheesy #6225568 02/26/12
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,407 Likes: 1 SW Missouri Cheesy Campfire Outfitter
Cheesy Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,407 Likes: 1 SW Missouri	The darker one here is my brother in laws (or sisters if you ask her). Calm dog as well, gets along great with my niece and nephew who are 2nd grade and kindegarten (I think?). He's been hit by the electric fence at the farm one too many times, so has to have some manual intervention to cross any fence now.

Re: Looking for a dog Cheesy #6225637 02/26/12
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina MadMooner OP Campfire Ranger
OP MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina	Nice looking GSPs there Cheesy. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: Looking for a dog MadMooner #6225667 02/26/12
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 16,285 Likes: 4 A add Campfire Ranger
add Campfire Ranger A Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 16,285 Likes: 4	Originally Posted by MadMooner I am looking to get a dog this year, a family-hunting dog. The new dog would first be a companion for my wife and I, as well as our little male schnauzer, and be a hunter second. Mostly grouse, pheasant, and I am itching to get into ducks. I live in the PNW, wet and can be cold with mild summers. That line is very telling. Most hunting dogs are non-hunting dogs for 90% of the year. I have hunted with Setters (owned), Brits, GSP, Labs, Springers, etc. My experience with the Wire Hair is limited to watching a young brace of them being worked (and hard) by a trainer with birds. They were younger dogs, longer and leggy... very graceful to watch, hard-workers and great temperaments. A co-worker of mine owned one as well and said she was a smart, tough dog. She loved to "bust ice" on late season water retrieves... We have Golden Retrievers. Not those blonde, long-haired, blocky engineered things; bastardized for the show ring. But Goldens from field bred trial lines (think doggie Olympics )- smaller and very athletic. Darker red, short-coated hunters, with great noses and desire. Wonderful in the water and upland birds. They thrive in the wet and cold but may not tolerate the heat as well or excel for open range as the pointing breeds. But above all, flat out wonderful companions. What ever breed you end up with, keep in mind there will be variance within the breed and chose a reputable breeder that stresses the traits you desire... Regardless, here is short primer on puppy training and a pic of a field bred golden by a top notch breeder: http://www.gundogcentral.com/view_a...pbrass%20Retrievers%20for%20all%20Reason This used to be the bible on starting a puppy (also, preparation before you chose a pup) and has served our family well through the years: http://www.amazon.com/How-Raise-Puppy-You-Live/dp/1577790227 Best wishes on your endeavor. Hope some of this may have helped, please feel free to pm for any info/pics! Epstein didn't kill himself. "Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!" Biden didn't win the election.

Re: Looking for a dog add #6225825 02/26/12
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina MadMooner OP Campfire Ranger
OP MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina	Thanks for the advice and links, add. Much appreciated. That Golden in the link is a beautiful dog. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: Looking for a dog MadMooner #6225913 02/26/12
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho broomd Campfire Outfitter
broomd Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho	Originally Posted by MadMooner I am looking to get a dog this year, a family-hunting dog. I've been around some GSPs that were pretty dang high strung and don't want a lab shedding all over the house. I was looking at some of the wire haired dogs and love the look of the Wire Haired Griffons. Most everything I have read about them is positive. Low shed, great pointers and retrievers, fairly calm indoors dog. I've heard the same for some Drahttars. The new dog would first be a companion for my wife and I, as well as our little male schnauzer, and be a hunter second. Mostly grouse, pheasant, and I am itching to get into ducks. I live in the PNW, wet and can be cold with mild summers. Anyone with an opinion of the Griff in this role? Male or female? Know any trusted breeders in the area? Griffs are the finest breed there is for many reasons. We've bred in the past but aren't currently. PM me if you want to talk more about these great dogs. Here are ours...

Re: Looking for a dog broomd #6225933 02/26/12
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho broomd Campfire Outfitter
broomd Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho	Some of our pups... "Patches" in South Dakota... "Fairbanks" in Ontario, Canada.... Great breed for the home and field.

Re: Looking for a dog broomd #6225935 02/26/12
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina MadMooner OP Campfire Ranger
OP MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,131 Likes: 1 South Carolina	Broomd, I actually sent you a PM last week! This post was actually just a cut and paste of the PM I sent ya. I was hoping you would chime in. I'd love to chat with you, if you wouldn't mind. I'll send another PM. “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: Looking for a dog MadMooner #6226168 02/26/12
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho broomd Campfire Outfitter
broomd Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2011 Posts: 7,513 Likes: 1 Idaho	MM, sorry I missed that PM... Drop me a pm with your number, I'll give you a call, share what I can. Great you are considering a Griff. Helluva choice.

Re: Looking for a dog logcutter #6226287 02/27/12
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 40 mi coyote58 Campfire Greenhorn
coyote58 Campfire Greenhorn Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 40 mi	I have had gwps since 78.great dogs. Go to versatiledogs.com read about about the breeds in breed info big help.if you have a navhda chapter by you go to a test and see some dogs before you buy.

Re: Looking for a dog coyote58 #6226807 02/27/12
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,999 C carbon12 Campfire Tracker
carbon12 Campfire Tracker C Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,999	TTT Like to see more input on this thread. Pudelpointer, Griffon and Deutsch Draathars are at the top of my want list.

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