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And the tests that prove that it's just marketing hype and not true I can find where ?
You haven't got any do you ? Leupold's Diamond Coat Coatings have been around for years. The military has found that they far exceed their standards. But guys like you refuse to accept that they are what they claim.
At least their generous eye boxes and long eye relief are an easily proven fact. Or are yoy claiming them to be hype as well ? E

Provide a link to that please.

Laughing....

I think the only Easily proven fact around here is that Eremicus is a serious Leupold whore! :-) ......................dj

Barsness summed it up accurately..

E pimping Leupy's eyebox? Check. Diamond Coat? Check. RDFinn bashing Leupold? Check.

Good to see things never change in the optics forum!

add to that an 8:1 or 10:1 zoom. how about a 2.5-25x 50mm scope?? march scopes have it. and I say have over 25 moa in one turn of the turret.

Regardless of lens and power, the windage adjustment would be on the left side so as not to block the loading port.

AND....bring back the post reticle......can't even find one through a custom shop.

A lighter 3-9x40 Conquest with a slightly smaller ocular and markings all the way around the turret.

3-10x42 Swaro, just like it is, with a turret option.

Constant ER Leupolds.

The lens of claim 67, said light transmission being at least 99.5%.

a first lens, said first lens being located adjacent said first end of said scope and presenting a first face and an opposed second face with at least one of said first and said second faces having a coating, said coating comprising an anti-reflective layer disposed on said face and a hydrophobic layer disposed on said anti-reflective layer wherein said coating permits at least 99% of the light entering said lens second face to be transmitted through said lens first face; and
a plurality of lenses located between said first lens and said second end of said scope, each of said plurality of lenses presenting a first lens surface and an opposed second lens surface, with certain of said lens surfaces containing an anti-reflective layer disposed thereon, said coating retaining at least 95% of a hydrophobic characteristic after an abrasion test comprising the steps of rubbing an eraser for at least 20 strokes along the same line using 2.5 pounds of pressure on the eraser, said hydrophobic characteristic being selected from the group consisting of contact angles and stain removal using adhesive tape

Again E, care to take your Leupold superhard coating through this test???

This isn't a swipe at Leupold but a question for the optics stooge!!!

Yes sir that would be nice. Also wish the v6 line were m1 optional. Being able to add m1's to the v6 shouldn't be a day dream....but it is.

Just for the record, leupold states that their Diamond Coat lense coatings are the toughtest coatings they have ever offered. How that clear statement morphed into the toughest ever offered in the world is well...........you all know the rest.

Be that as it may, I want a scope that is durable, reliable and one that can hold zero when abused first........hense the Elite (4200) series. Eremicus's claim of superior eyebox and eye relief only proves that he has never made a comparison between a VX3 (3.5-10x40) and a Elite 2.5-10 or 3-9x40.

I helped a new hunter zero his rifle last fall with a new Elite 4200 scope. While the latest VX3 does have somewhat less eye relief than the older versions of this scope, they still have 3.8-3.4 inches vs. the 3.25 inches of the the 4200 Elites. The eye boxes on the Elites run 1/3-1/4 as much. E

LIV2BS, I was refering to scratch resistance, not water repelant characteristics as you seem to be. Not was I refering to the light transmition qualities of a particular lense. But if you wish to test or post about that stuff, be my guest. E

Utter BS !!!

If I built a scope (For mid-long range hunting)

Bushnell/IOR has a decent thing going. 2.5x16 3x18, that's where I'd start. Vortex has a great reticle.

1)2.5-16x50 w/ 30mm tube
2)EBR-1 MOA reticle but 1moa dashes up to 10moa then go 2moa intervals.
3)65-80moa of travel
4)Illuminated reticle
5)Capped, medium turrets with a zero stop and obviously 1/4moa adjustment
6)Side paralax 25yds-inf.
7)Fast focus eye piece
8)16-22oz
9)Level inside the tube
10)$500-700

The level isn't something I would have to have but it could come in handy. I own a couple FFP scopes and it has its advantages but again, not something I would have to have.

I say all this because I just had to scope my t3 .308 and NOBODY makes what I have described. Some scopes have a couple of these items but nobody has #1-8 which were important to me.

Since 90% plus of bolt rifles are right handed, I'd place the elevation turret on the left side and out of the way from possibly being hit by an ejected case.

Not an original thought, but it did come from a knowledgable rifle guy after I mentioned to him that I was having a problem with the case hitting the turret and landing back on the follower. Doesn't happen often, but it could be eliminated with the turret on the left.

One of those times that lefties do get a brake.

Throw on a side focus and it would be the ultimate.

One of the few times my friend...

:-) Actualy EVERY scope without a third turret and symmetric reticle will work this way. Rotate 90degrees and use elevation for Windage and vice versa. ............dj