Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Reloader 12 Powder? .30/30 and .300 Sav.

I've heard some references to this discontinued powder as being the cat's meow in the .30/30 and .300 Savage cartridges. Could someone enlighten me? I just discovered a cache of this stuff at a small out of the way gun shop. Should I buy some?AW

It's okay, Reloader 15 is a LOT better.

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Ditto that ditto. RL15 is also not temperature sensitive. I use it in .30/30. .300 Savage, .308, .250 Savage, .220 Swift.

I use Reloader 12 in my .300 Savage behind 165 grain bullets, which works very well. I haven't used Rl 15, so can't comment on it. -Joe

Reloder 12 is a very good powder in the .30/30. I never got the same velocities with any other powder I tested in this cartridge.

AGW

I tried RE12 and found I hit a wall pressure wise way too soon in my Marlin 336 .30-30 with 170 grain bullets. Since this powder has been discontinued I think I'd try something currently offered such as RE15 or Varget just to ensure a ready supply. There are other choices too such as IMR-3031 and W748 that aren't all that bad. All in all, RE15 might just take the prize as the best of the lot. If you don't use RE15 or Varget currently you'll be surprised how many other cartridges the two are suitable for and works very well in. Both are good additions to the loading bench IMHO.

I ran into pressure signs with rx 12 in the 30-30 before velocities got to where they should have been. rx15 works much better in my rifles than 12.
RX12 works extremely well for accuracy and velocity in my 405.

Can't tell you much about the 30/30 and sav 300 but it works really great in my browning 308 lever action. It was a fussy gun and didn't really shoot terrible bad but just couldn't get down in the 1" range. Using noslers accuracy load and good old hornady 150 spire points it became a moa gun.
There are published loads showing good accuracy potential for the .308 with 165's and also for the 30-06 in 150 and 165 grainers (although it won't be a top velocity getter). It also shows up as a accuracy load (believe it or not) in the 300 win mag for 150 grainers at modest velocity.
It's also a real clean burning powder. Much the same burn rate as the 4895's. I like it and am glad my local shop isn't out of it yet....will probably buy up the last he's got.

Not sure what rifle you are shooting, but after much development in my Savage 99 F in 300 Savage, Varget got the nod. Using 42 grains under a 150 grain Sierra Pro Hunter with Fed 210 M primers, I get an honest 2600fps and 3 shots will make an inch group and 5 will tend to open up to 1.5" due to a warm barrel. Have not ventured to the Reloader series yet, but Varget is temperature stabile also. As always start loads 10% lower and work up carefully.

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I have no experience with the .30/30 cartridge, but here's my experience with the .300 Savage.

For my .300 Savage (in a Model 99 Savage) whitetail deer hunting load, I use the 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, boat-tailed bullet in Winchester cartridge cases and standard Winchester primers. The load (41.5 grains of IMR4895) averages .75-inches (3/4 of an inch) firing 3-shot groups @ 100 yards off the bench rest yielding an average chronographed muzzle velocity of 2680 fps with a deviation of � 19 fps (+9 fps/-10 fps) out of my 1953 �EG� Model 99's 24-inch barrel.

This load showed NO pressure signs in my rifle� even though it was listed as a �maximum load� in my reloading manual. This load is a very slightly compressed load.

Since this is a "MAXIMUM LOAD", it may not be safe in your rifle. You should REDUCE this �maximum load� by 10% and use that amount of powder as your �starting load� and carefully "work up" to the maximum load for YOUR rifle.

My smallest 3-shot group using 41.5 grains of IMR4895 so far has been .1925 inches or just under 2/10th of an inch at 50 yards.

However, I did get a 3-shot group of .112 inches (just over 1/10th of an inch) at 50 yards using 41.1 grains of IMR4895 with a deviation of 13 fps (+6/-7 fps) giving a muzzle velocity of 2647 fps.

This load was the result of working up loads with four different powders (IMR3031, IMR4895, IMR4064 and Hodgdon's Varget), four different primers (Winchester, CCI, Federal and Remington) and three different bullets (Hornady & Sierra 150 grain, soft-point bullets & the 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, boat-tailed bullet).


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Ron T.

Buy it!! It is absolutely THE powder for 300 Savage 150-165 grain bullets. Top velocity and unbelievable accuracy. my hunting load is 44.4 grains in a Rem case , Fed 210m (match) primer, and a 150 grain Hornady SST. AOL is 2.605 . This lod will shoot less than an inch all day, and I have shot some clover leafs 3-shots. I buy all the Rx-12 that I come across. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />