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Hi guys,
I just picked up my 1st 99, a 1953 EG in .300 Sav.____________________<--- mad dog insert comment here...Ha Ha. My brother reloads and said he would help me work up some handloads, I had a couple questions I was hoping you guys could answer for me. First, is new .300 brass hard to come by, where do you guys get yours? Also, if you wouldn't mind throwing me a couple of you favorite loads, powders,primers etc. that work well for your 99's just to see what direction we should head.
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I can't remember ever buying new .300 brass, just reloaded fired factory brass or made them from .308. One of the best loads I've found has been 40 grains of IMR-4064 and 150 grain bullet. As always, work up to it.


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Remington and Winchester brass can be had at Midway, Powder Valley, Buffalo Arms, and others I'm sure. My last batch of (was it WInchester?) in .300 Sav was $27 for 50 pieces.

I'm also a fan of IMR4064. Mine is taking 40gr with a Hornady 150gr SP Interlock. I've also been using 41gr of Varget with a 150gr Sierra Pro-Hunter.

Another load I've used 40.4gr IMR4064 under Hornady 165gr Interlocks.

These loads are very close to MAX in the Savage 99 so, as Joe said, be sure to work up to it. In fact, the 40.4 load with 165gr bullets is probably over the limit for the action and chamber on a 99.

One thing I've learned with these model 99's: you can;t just go to any reloading manual and pick a bullet and powder charge for 300 Sav. The model 99 isn;t quite as strong as a bolt-action or falling block or others. The (my) chambers are larger and the brass will stretch pretty quickly at the head. I've had some separations very early on (3rd firing) and am now learning to be much more conservative with the loads. Don;t expect the maximum velocities seen in some of the manuals. This 300 Savage in a 99 is NOT one for hot-rodding, of that I'm confident.

Also, neck sizing dies for the 300Sav are not abundant. Lee will make one for you for $60 I think. I bought a Redding neck sizer but I'm not entirely happy with it's design. SO far so good, though. With some careful attention you can adjust your full-length die to accomplish pretty much the same thing.

Let the chamber size the brass and keep loads well-below maximum. THose are the rules I've learned to impose upon myself when reloading this cartridge.

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I tend to go for 44 grains of IMR 4064 under a Hornady 150 grn spire point with pretty much any standard large rifle primer. If I were you I wouldn't go there. That load is from a '68 or so version of the Speer Reloading Handbook. It has since been reduced to 40 grains of IMR 4064 max in their latest edition. It works for me and I haven't blown the rifle up yet but in all honesty I'd have to advise not going above 40 grains of 4064 unless you have access to pressure testing equipment.


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Originally Posted by Joe
One of the best loads I've found has been 40 grains of IMR-4064 and 150 grain bullet. As always, work up to it.



I have really good luck with this load also. And it works good on all my 1950's era 300 Savages.....

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Bob...

I did extensive research (and worked up many loads) using IMR3031, IMR4895, IMR4064, Varget and H4895.

I found the IMR4895 was THE most accurate powder and gave me the highest muzzle velocity of any of the powders I tried.

However, there was one problem... the velocity got slower and SLOWER with each new pound can of IMR4895 I purchased beginning in 1995 (avg. MV = 2715 fps using 41.5 grains with a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet), then again in 1999 (avg. MV = 2708 fps)... and again in 2002 (avg. MV = 2685 fps), 2004 (avg. MV = 2665 fps) and finally in 2006 where the average muzzle velocity was only 2547 fps with the same load (41.5 grains of IMR4895... the MAXIMUM listed load) as I had been loading since 1995. However, this load was chronographed at just 26�F... not 85�F. But a "test load" I brought with me the same day which was one of my hunting loads from the can of 2002 IMR4895 chronographed at 2630 fps on the SAME DAY that the load of 2006 powder chronographed at 2547, so there was a REAL and OBVIOUS "difference" in the powder's performance from the 2002 powder to the 2006 powder.

All muzzle velocities were from my chronograph... and, meanwhile, other calibers like my varmint load out of my heavy barreled Sako in .222 remained a consistent 3199-3210 fps over the years using 21.8 grains of Vihta Vouri N-130 (Max. listed load = 22.1 grains of VV's N-130) so there didn't seem to be anything wrong with my chronograph.

I hated to try other powders because at a load of 41.3 grains of IMR4895, I got a 3 shot group of just .112 inches (2002 powder) and many 3-shot groups under 2/10ths of an inch at 50 yards using the MAX. load (also my hunting load) of 41.5 grains which yielded a "best" 3-shot group for my hunting load of .191 inches at 2685 fps in 2002. BUTTTTTTT... a MV in the mid-2500 (2006 powder) just wasn't good enough, so the search of a new powder began.

I found a maximum load of IMR3031 (40.0 grains behind a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet with a standard Winchester large rifle primer in Winchester cases) yielded a good muzzle velocity (2665 fps) and good accuracy for 2 out of 3 shots, but there was ALWAYS one "flyer" an inch or more out of the group.

I found that IMR4064 showed pressure (cupped firing pin dent in the primer and flattened primer) at close to maximum load and the group size wasn't anything to brag about.

Varget was a major disappointment... best MV was a hair over 2600 (2607 fps as I recall)... but even an additional 1/10 of a grain of powder over the max load didn't show any pressure and only raised the MV to something like 2615 fps.

Finally, I tried H4895 and was pleasantly surprised. A load of 40.8 grains (.1 of a grain UNDER the maximum load) yielded only 2635 fps, but it was a very consistent "2535 fps" with a standard deviation of only � 3 fps (+1 fps/-2 fps) and decent accuracy (can't remember the actual 3-shot group size, but it was around a quarter of an inch or so... plenty good enough for deer under 250 yards (my self-imposed maximum hunting shot range).

An additional "PLUS" with the H4895... it is one of Hodgdon's "EXTREME" powders which means the MV it produces is NOT effected by TEMPERATURE... and this is why the rather low MV of just 2635 is ACCEPTABLE.

I found with IMR4895, the SUMMER (85�) muzzle velocity was 2685 fps, but the HUNTING WEATHER (20� to 30�) MV was only 2630 fps!!! So the H4895 produced MV of 2635 was fully acceptable since it will still be a consistent "2635 fps" in the cold weather as well because it is a Hodgdon EXTREME powder.

The gunwriter, "MuleDeer", who posts here told me that the low muzzle velocity yield of the 2006 IMR4895 was probably just a "powder lot variation", and while I truly respect most of his thinking, I don't agree with him on this "powder lot variation" due to the continuing, slowly lowering muzzle velocity since 1995 because this "step-down" of muzzle velocity almost seems "planned". It SEEMS too consistent to NOT be planned, but WHY?!?

Buttttt... that's another battle for another day... so I decided to "move on"... !

When testing the load's velocity in the cold weather using the powder from the BOTTLE like Hodgdon uses which was purchased in 2006, I also brought along a few rounds of my hunting loads using the powder from the can of IMR4895 purchased in 2002 and tested the muzzle velocity of my those hunting loads of 41.5 grains of 2002 IMR4895 powder against the same load of the newer (2006) IMR4895 and while the new IMR4895 yielded only 2547 fps, the older hunting load of the same amount (41.5 grains) of the older (2002) IMR4895 yielded 2630 fps on the SAME DAY a FEW MINUTES LATER as the new IMR4895's 41.5 grain load yielded only 2547 fps.

Therefore, while it may have been the powder's "lot variation", it was more than I wanted to deal with since the same load (41.5 grains) of IMR4895 had been slowing down with each new can of IMR4895 since 1995 and I'd had enough... and the search was "on" for a new powder which ended when I tested H4895.

Of course, each rifle is a "study" unto itself... and what may work well in my Model 99 may NOT work as well... or may work BETTER in your Model 99. The ONLY way to find out is to try different loads and different powders and see what you get.

I'd suggest you try IMR3031 and Hodgdon's H4895 and work up to maximum published loads and see what kind of accuracy you get. Keep good written records so you can review them months or even YEARS later and still get accurate details.

I've got pages and pages of notes and details, but it is far too much to enter here. Anyway... a load of 40.8 grains of H4895 works for me... decent muzzle velocity and decent accuracy... and no high pressure signs.

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I'm a 4064 fan also, when it comes to reloading the .300 Savage. Two other powders that have given me good accuracy and velocity are Hodgden's H-335 and Alliant's Reloader 15.



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I've had very good luck with Reloader 15 and Varget in the .300 - which is nice as I have several other rifles that use those powders. Generally I stick with 150gr flat base spitzers.

42gr of R15 would run them ~2620 fps out of a 24" barreled 99. Alliant shows 44 gr as max with 165's, so I think this load is safe in 99's.

42 gr of Varget in my 1920 has shown 2730 fps. The load shoots well but I will call this max in the 1920 (and probably modern bolt guns as well). I'd back down 10% from here before starting in a 99.


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Ron, and all, is that load/velocity you cite to in a 24" barrel or a 22 or a 20?

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24 inch barrel (1953 Savage EG).

The Sako has a 23� inch barrel...


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Originally Posted by ZookaTx
Ron, and all, is that load/velocity you cite to in a 24" barrel or a 22 or a 20?


All my .300's - 99's or 1920's have had 24"barrels.


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Ron- I think it's time Rick Bin gave you your own forum, the "EG in .300 and How to Load for it" forum. grin


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... laugh laugh grin

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