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I like them both.
The advantage (to me) of the 30-06 is about 20% more case volume, and a generous mag length in the Rem700. That gives plenty of leeway regarding powder choices and OAL.
The 308 is no slouch with the heavies, with modern powders. RL17 under 200+gr bullets works very well in the 308.
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I see more serious deer hunters use a .308 over the '06 but also see more serious big game hunters select the '06 so confidence can be built through tailored bullet weights for different sized game.
In reality, I don't thing anyone will kill enough animals with each to notice much between them. I would expect the rifle choice would be the determining factor for most people.
I appreciate the attributes of the. 308 but prefer the. 30/06.
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In countries that do not have the historical military attachment to the 30-06, the .308 might be a little more popular. It is pretty much a tie, anyway. I don't think that the 30-06 enjoys the automatic superior position assumed in the USA in the former British commonwealth for instance.
Using factory loads, I don't think there is any real advantage in the field of one over the other, is is really more of an emotional comfort choice than a technical efficiency choice.
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You can argue a wider selection of bullet weights, but, with today's modern premium bullets that doesn't mean much.
As to availiable ammo, cheap surplus practice ammo is abundant for the .308. some of it even shoots pretty well. Not nearly as availiable in the '06.
As to factory ammo in remote places, the .308, from what I've seen, is stocked just like '06, .270 and .30-30 ammo. E
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30/06
Resale
Slightly more powerful
More options in shelf ammo
308
Less recoil
Inherently more accurate
Tactical options
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Finding that I just don't care for the 308 win. Already sold 2 of mine in the last couple of weeks..... There is a turd in hell waiting to be smoked!���. 
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"Finding that I just don't care for the 308 win. Already sold 2 of mine in the last couple of weeks....."And I just keep wearing out barrels on mine every few years... Dang. I truly like both cartridges. Wearing out barrels in ANY rifle is a great thing!!! Means you are shooting more than most. I like both, though in bolt action rifles do tend to perfer the 30-06 simply for its ability to shoot heavier bullets better. I'm slowly becoming a heavy for caliber guy, for now at least. Variety is the spice of life and I would love to put a heavy barreled 'tatical' 308 and a nice light 'mountian' rifle in 308 in my safe to go along with my 30-06s You'd be better off with a heavy barreled tactical in 300 wsm  ....trust me...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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30/06
Resale
Slightly more powerful
More options in shelf ammo
308
Less recoil
Inherently more accurate
Tactical options All B.S.... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Finding that I just don't care for the 308 win. Already sold 2 of mine in the last couple of weeks..... There is a turd in hell waiting to be smoked!���. I'll be waiting, maybe we could smoke them together....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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30.06 has more case capacity and the ability to shoot heavier bullets up to 220 grains, 250 grains if you have the specified twist in your rifle to handle them, if a person cares too?
the 308 tends to be more streamlined towards target/precision shooting rifles and cannot handle the heavier bullet weights.
That being said the newer bullet technology and powders I would feel pretty confident in shooting a 168TTSX or Partition at anything in N.A.
I have a 30.06 that shoots a 165 grain bullet at a slow 2680 fps but it has killed anything I put the bullet through. A 308 could surely match and or surpass this velocity.
We run our 308 rifles with 208 Amax bullets out past 1000 with good success so the weight issue isn't really an issue at all. 99% of game shot with either cartridge will never know the difference if the bullet is put where it needs to be put. That being said, if I were hunting something big and nasty I wouldn't mind the extra fps the 06 gives. You can't go wrong either way.
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I don't believe killing beyond the range of any bullet on an animal that has tenacity and the "will" to live. That range is generally within 250 yds and more to my liking if within 100yds.
Accuracies of the two are moot so I'd stick with my long favored aught six.
If asked what cartridge to buy I'd say the .30-06, many around me like the .308 more due to its barrel/action weight....makes sense. But I am a believer of heavy bullets and that leans towards the aught six.
I don't have enough "experience" in shooting moose or grizz with my .308 with the 165 or 150 grain whatevers, the "bastard" child stays hidden. Just my .02
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Drop the 150's and try shooting the 130 grain Barnes TTSX from your .308. 2900+ fps is easy, and they shoot flat as a laser beam. +1 but its ...actually 3100+ in A 22" barrel
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When you consider you can push a 150 grainer up to 3050fps in a 308 and a 178 HPBT well past 2700fps with some of the new powders like 2000MR, it really makes the 06 kinda obsolete, though I wont sell my model 70 anytime soon, its a very accurate 06. But id pick my 308 for a hunting job pretty much every time over my 06. So in my eyes the 06 has no advantage whatsoever over the 06, 308s ROCK! ![[Linked Image]](http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/JGorski80/178HORHPBT-1.jpg) This is a load of 47.5grs 2000MR with the 178HPBT Hornady, Im getting around 2750fps in my Rem SPSS. What he said - and no offense to Steven CO, but there is not a 250-300 fps difference. A .308 win hand loader these days can easily best most factory 30-06 loads with today's powders - especially the newer ones like 2000MR or Hodgdon's CFE223, and that includes loading up to 180 gr bullets. Note this is handload versus factory load. Acknowledge there is a good 100 fps or so edge available still for the 30-06 handloader. Personally prefer the less powder, less recoil option.
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