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Anyone with eyes and a brain is qualified to comment, and their comments are just as good as all the ones previous.

You don't have to have been under fire to see what that was, it was lame, let me list a couple of errors. And before jumping on my lack of qualifications that enable me to criticize you better figure out first whether you would make the same call. The call isn't bad because of who made it.

Holding the finger on a 100 round mag when the first few shots stirred up so much dust the shooter could no longer see a thing including his frigging sights. Bad bad form there. Someone leading and watching would have told him to slow down, stop wasting ammo, pick your shots.

A particular favorite is the over the head/no aiming/pull the trigger and wave the rifle from side to side in a spraying motion technique, did they teach that in basic?

Throwing a grenade? Damn but that was lame.

Everyone watching this started out trying to say the same thing nicely, that it was pretty frigging lame.

That was not a pressured fire fight, it was what should have been a relatively relaxed and controlled exercise.

Now maybe I ain't qualified to be sayin how they shoulda done it, but I have enough brains to be able to see how jacked up how they were doing it was, and you do too buddy.

As one person said before, that was embarrassing, and I'll bet their commanding officer would agree with that call, he won't be defending that circle jerk.

By the way buddy, I've been under fire and I'm still here. No point in talking about it cause it doesn't matter as pertains to this.

243 and Torres,

Please go over and give them some instruction your expertise will be appreciated

That's better.

I wouldn't want to be in the same area as those clowns, and clowns they were.

It doesn't take a genius to see when someone is plain not doing something well.

Irony much?

Fire suppression is somewhere you apparently have never been or experienced,very obvious from your lack of knowledge of the subject.You ever think it might have been their job to draw fire and keep the enemy occupied or their heads down to facilitate a flanking maneuver?.. so for practical purposes I'll give you the rank of armchair QB since you seem to be an exspurt on fire fights!

BRAVE!? Biggest bunch of pussies I've ever seen. Seems like that "close with and destroy the enemy" thing ain't a priority. Shootin' over the top of the berm, without sighting your weapon? The SAW gunner was real good at flagging everybody else as well.

Had to be suppressive fire/distraction. Nobody wanted to get shot playing decoy so they made noise from behind that wall. I kept wondering why no flanking manuever for the first few minutes until it dawned on me that it was probably already in play. That or this was a really ate up Guard unit. Could be either one pretty easily.

**Could also be that the chopper was trying to pinpoint the enemy and those boys were playing decoy until the pilot got a fix on them.

Ranger1, What seals the deal for me as it being suppressive fire is no shouting between them as to how to retreat, or fire and move, or really any other discussion.

I would hope that even an "ate up Guard Unit" would at least be trying to figure out how to evacuate the AO if it weren't their job to stay there & "spray & pray".

JMHO as I wasn't there, don't have a dog in the fight, and can't second guess anyone elses firefight without ALL the facts.

Ed

There was reason for them holding that position,like I said there's an Apache on station in the second vid and I believe they were there for a reason.Bravery without brains is stupidity and gets you killed in a heart beat!A bunch of pizz pots peering over that wall could easily be sporting a 30cal hole...

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unless your keyboard is in braile it's pretty evident you've eyes.


it's the second criteria that you've never been able to quantify sufficiently.


but keep typing monkey boy, you're liable to spill out a sonnet one of these days!

Was I talking to you doper? I didn't think so.

Prove your claim.

By the way I don't understand your gay doper code and really don't care how you change a quote. But I am pretty sure you will understand the change I made to yours

Well............

.....I have seen a couple of potty mouths throwing insults.

I would have liked to addrress my original objectionn, which was "that was no fire fight".

it dusn't looke like thats going to happpen, except by a few that are above the fray (posssible spellling errorr)
M

I'm no combat expert,..don't claim to be, but the way that SAW operator kept popping up at the same position from behind that wall just seems to be asking for it.

If I had to pop him, thats what I would be waiting for..... when he got done fixing that jam-o-matic.

M

I can see from your question you were never in combat, spraying fire is to keep the enemy down it was done in Nam when I was there, and was probably done in every war that had auto weapons.

I understand suppressive fire, as I'm sure all you folks who've been in the service also have since you were kids. Boys just tend to pick this basic information up somehow (one of the effects of testosterone). But suppressive fire is used typically to assist another element of your force to change positions, as for example to move to one or both of the enemy's flanks. I wasn't seeing any of that in the video, although I suppose it's possible it was going on anyway.

Suppressive fire is also used to "lay down a line of fire". This normally done to draw fire and keep the enemy distracted.

Merriam-Webster's: definition "fire fight"

a: a usually brief intense exchange of fire between opposing military units.
b: a hostile confrontation that involves gunfire

Hummmm.. intense exchange? you might say so..hostile confrontation?.. that's the way I see it! Anytime you receive incoming and return it that's a fire fight in my book!You might want to be on the receiving end sometime could change your mind..