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Microstamping is a process by which firing pins are engraved with a gun�s make, model and serial number so any bullet fired is imprinted with that information.


Pretty unknowing reporter, almost as ignorant as saying "any caliber".

All the bad guy has to do is swap out a firing pin.

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Will the quality of Remington guns suffer with a major move? There are a lot of very experienced workers who would be left behind. Didn't Marlin have some problems with that?

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Hope they GTFO, asap. To continue pumping millions in taxes into that rotten apple is ridiculous. A swift exit immediately upon the mere suggestion of such a thing would be a resonating bitchslap to the face of the 'tards who dream up this garbage.

Any firearms company that stays in a state that doesn't support firearms has some serious screws loose.


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Originally Posted by hogan65
Will the quality of Remington guns suffer with a major move? There are a lot of very experienced workers who would be left behind. Didn't Marlin have some problems with that?


Marlin's problems intensified when they moved to Ilion, NY. Remington already has some serious quality issues on it's own branded products, adding Marlin to the mix didn't help matters at all. The stuff they make in Kentucky is the worst of the bunch (770s, 597s, etc.)


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What is this micro stamping and how is it different than a serial number?

Never mind, caught an above post, saw it's on the firing pin.

In this state there is a fired cartridge with each gun and it supposedly is individual to the gun much as fingerprints.

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Slightly off topic but - has anyone ever found a micro serial number on any of their guns?



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Originally Posted by 243WSSM
What is this micro stamping and how is it different than a serial number?

Never mind, caught an above post, saw it's on the firing pin.

In this state there is a fired cartridge with each gun and it supposedly is individual to the gun much as fingerprints.


First Let me say that the real reason for the Microstamping law isn't to solve crime, or even to make firearms more expensive, its to eliminate many models from the market in NYS.

For the most part its hard to find a fired case at a crime scene and match it to the library using the COBIS ssytem. Its possible in theory but there are a lot of cases to match to and of course 90% of guns don't have a case in the library. Because microstamping leaves an ID number, an investigator only has to look up the number.

Because the politicians who introduced the bill in NY don't know anything about firearms I am not sure that they understand the limitations of how this is going to work, or if they understand the possible effects that this could have on the way ranges work, or how brass travels in reloading circles. They just know that it will intefear with purchasing guns in NYS so it must be good.

As for Remington leaving NY its possible, but recent trends suggest that they have been centering production in the Ilion plant and shutting down production and moving elsewhere would likely be very expensive, at a time when its unlikely they have stock to continue sales through a move(judgeing by Rugers recent announcement).

The other thing is that Remington isn't headquartered in NY, so they don't have much of NY tax burden and because they are located in a rural area where they are a very large percentage of the business in the area they have quite a bit of sway in local politics. That may or may not be true in other areas.

The last point is that while the microstamping bill might piss off Remington, of their total sales they sell very few handguns in NYS so it has no real effect on them. The proposed law affects hanguns sold in NY, not made in NY. I wouldn't be suprised to find that this was a bargining ploy to work a better property tax deal with the city/county/school district.


The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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