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Kutenay:The 280 is a great cartridge..... If all my 270's were chambered 280,I wouldn't squawk at all....the 280 is one of my favorite cartridges.What I can do with one, I can do with the other.

I knew you would appreciate the humor..

OK, that does it, I am going to look for another 280!!

Ran into a nice used .280 today at Gander mountain. Very nice wood, clean, Ruger MKII with the pre-LC6 trigger.

It was a .280 "Short", AKA 7mm-08 in a Compact format - something I've wanted (or a .260 Rem) for a long time.

Tag said $500 and I walked. Might stop by again and talk to the manager.

LOL, I owned one 280 when this thread started. I own five now

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I love my .280, on my second one now. I use either 150 or 160 gr. bullets in my rifle. If I want smaller bullets, then I use the 7mm-08. Some good factory loads out there but does shine with handloads.

280 Rem. is a sweetheart, got a Bud that has killed any and dang near everything in NA with his 280 and 160 Partition handloads, at least 22 years that i know of, and still bangin' stuff, I dont see him changin' any time soon.

Gunner

.280 is like a sore pecker.

This resurrected thread is definite proof of life after death.
ell, I might as well jump in too as the water looks fine. A while back I got the urge to do a serious custom but couldn't decide what cartridge. i literally had rifles ranging fron the .22 Hornet to the .416 Rigby so wanted something I didn.t already have. I wasn't intersted in all these wonder short magnums, not that there is anything wrong with them but they just didn't excite me. I decided on a 1909 Argentine, 24" barrel, classic walnut stock in .280 Rem. In the very limited load testing the rifle so far has proved to be very accurate. I like heavy for caliber bullets and the 175 gr. Hornady spire points have been very good with no load tried going over one inch. Smallest groups so far has been .55". Methinks this rifle will be a good one.
Paul B.

Ya can't beat it! My 280 now resides in my younger sister's possesion. Dandy cart, no doubt.

Old it is but its interesting. I own a .280, heck, during the life of this thread I sold a .280 custom because I didn't shoot it much. Anyway reading all this got me to go buy another .280 (Ruger MKII AW) and I like it just fine. I shot a whitetail with it last season and it seemed to die as quick as they do with anything you shoot them with. The .280 I just got is pretty accurate for a factory rifle and I am shooting RL22 and IMR4831 with the Horn. 162 gr. Interlocks at two grains under the max in the RL22 cause it is the most accurate. When I run the charge higher the groups open up. All this talk about going way over the published data is interesting but the sanest comments I have read are by the guys who understand at most hunting distances 2750 kills just as dead as 3000.

Yep, you see three beautiful women you would like to dance with: a brunette, a blonde, and a redhead. the brunette is the 30-06, the blonde is the 270, and the redhead is the 280. You don't see too many redheads, but when you do, they turn your head around!!

Dear Eremicus, i'm fully aware that i dont know what i'm talking about, that's why i merely quoted the lee manual, which is based on powder makers's data. let me quote another "authority" who also may or may not know what they're talking about: "I have a low-down sneaking suspicion that the .270 care will hold just about all the powder that will burn efficiently behind a .277 bullet. Use a larger case and more powder and the result id more recoil more muzzle blast, more pressure shorter barrel life but darned little more velocity. The notion held by amateur ballisticians that all one has to do to step up velocity is to put more powder behind the bullet is an exceedingly naive one. Beyond a certain point with any caliber, the addition of more powder simply increases pressure and has little effect on velocity."
Substitute "284" for "277" and the quote applies to the topic.

This thread came back outta no where...always a fun topic

I love the 280,having owned and hunted with several...one of my three favorite standard cases.Hope to bump into another one day but not sure "why"(?)

In addition to being a solid round,psychogically it offers a safe haven for those procrastinators who can't decide between a 270 and a 30/06...even though general results are about the same with all three.

Seems two kinds of guys own 280's....either practical sorts who want something a bit different from a 270 or 06,but are realistic about the round's capabilities and place in the cartridge lineup....or number crunchers who read incessantly and dwell on tiny differences based on loading manuals and calulations,proclaiming it somehow superior to everything including the fabulous 7 Rem Mag....Johnny B once said they were like guys who had discovered some rare scotch from an obscure distillery.

I love the 280 and discussing it with fans,but when they hop on a pulpit about the round's superiority to everything else I fall off and my mind wanders to other stuff.

These arguments are based on the same creeping incrementalism which will soon have a 7/08 and 120 gr bullets on the same performance level with a 7 Rem Mag and 160-175 gr bullets, which is mostly BS.The 280 Remington is on the same playing field with the 7 Rem Mag, about like the 30/06 is with the 300 Weatherby or Winchester.

A 280,loaded realistically,does not break 3100 with a 140 gr bullet or 2900 with a 160 even though I have made it exceed those numbers while doing load work up...but not for long nor for extended use.

OTOH the 7 Rem mag will do 3200-3250 with 140's like breaking sticks and a bit under 3100 with 160's.It really isn't fair to the 280 to try and put it in the same ball park.

Going the other direction,I have found it pretty simple to move a 130 from a 270 at over 3100 fps from 22"-24" barrels;150's will do 2900-2950 or so.(With the newer high BC bullets for the 270 caliber there will not be enough difference between the 270 and 280 to spit on, which has always been true anyway).

These numbers of mine are from quite a few barrels and not just from manuals...there are solid reasons the 280 got squished between the 270 and 7 Rem mag.And more reasons the 7 Rem Mag is the most popular "belted magnum",and the most popular 7mm,by far.

If I bumped into a great rifle chambered for 280 I would buy it in a heartbeat and use it with confidence,knowing what it will do....but starting from scratch on a build,I wouldn't bother.BTDT and a common garden variety 270 Winchester is simpler,does the same things.

280Rick the stuff you are reading about the 270 and 284 bore sizes must have been written before there were powders like H1000,Retumbo,RL25,MagPro,7828SC and a host of other new slow burners....ask any 270 Weatherby or 270 WSM owner.I may be an "amateur ballistician" but I can also read a chronograph.

Barrel life? What's that? Barrels are consumable goods...like bass jigs and coffee..... I keep spares.

WTH Bob, using logic and facts to back up your argument? Might need a ruling on it, but your Rifle Looney status may be in jeopardy!

wahunterinrok: I will try to use my imagination more...sorry to be a wet blanket.

It's odd what .007 of an inch does to some folks.

HONEY LOVE = 270, 280, 30/06 in no particular order. The fact is any one of these rounds offers drop them flat out dead in there tracks performance when loaded to mild or moderate pressures. Do I really have a need to push the machinery as hard and fast as it will go........or to kill what I'm shooting more deader than dead. NOT REALLY! In reality........if the 280 has to be loaded to the cutting edge just to get the job done then it is already lacking to begin with. The fact is the 280 offers flat out deadly performance loaded to mild or moderate pressures.

Shod

Are you trying to say maybe bullet placement matters most and that maybe that, extremes excluded, that the rifle matters more than the size of the hole in it at the muzzle? Very true!

Within limits,"yes",and across a pretty broad range of cartridges

Let's add "bullet construction" and "Operator Proficiency".

I can see that, my uncle hunted with a 742 in 7mm Express for years, took a PILE of deer with it, but when it beat itself to death(as 742s do) He started using a bolt action(I forget which make) .270 that he won on a gun raffle. Ya know there hasn't been a deer that could tell the difference yet.