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You do not need a 1 in 8 twist to shoot 105's....

There fixed it for you.

20 antelope with the 243,5 with the 6mm Remington, 6 with the 257 Bob and 12 with the 25-06. Nothing does a better job than a 100 gr Hornady SP at 3000 fps + at the muzzle from a 243. You can blow the sh*t out of them better with a misplaced 100 gr bullet at 3400 fps in a 25-06 but not deader. FWIW the 120 in the 25-06 is a quicker killer in heavy deer, but not on 100-120 lb antelope. BTDT too many times to believe otherwise. Magnum Man

To get a bullet with a BC of 530 I'm pretty sure you would have to go with the Berger VLD and that means a fast twist barrel of at least 1 in 8 . I think the 105 Amax is about 500 BC And Hornady recommends a twist faster than 1in 10 for them I have no experience with the Amax so I'm just going on what I've been told.

For deer you'll never regret the 25.06. Just plain wicked on 'em!

The new Horn HPBT Match is .530, and it and the A-Max both stabilize in a 10" twist some of the time, and a 9" twist all of the time

I love the 25-06...

But I love the 243 more.

Recoil, Action Length, Barrel Length, Incredibly High BC Heavy Bullets for LR and Incredibly Fast Light Bullets in the 55's, Lots more Factory Ammo options...All in favor of the 243.

Especially for a guy who already has a 270...

I don't know why the bullet makers hate the quarter bore, and I wish they didn't.

DJ

You guys are missing the logical solution.

He should get the 25-06 first.
Then he won't have any need for the 270.
Sell the 270 and then get the 243.
Problem solved. All bases covered. Two new guns to play with.

That was easy.

Hornady recommends faster than 10 twist for the A-Max but doesnt recommend faster than 10 twist for the BTHP.I'm gonna have to try a box of those BTHP.

6mm Rem.

Btw....in Texas, the only people who shoot a 243 are adolescent's and women!

-1

That's just not correct. A 700 will spin them as it comes from the factory.

I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess and you are afforded the "luxury" of talking out your ass. Factory rifles abound,which will do the aforementioned .530BC proud in issued guise. That in regards to twist,throat and COAL.

There was no need to quantify your ass ramblings with the "I have no experience" banner,as it was/is well beyond obvious,that he only thing you shoot is your mouth.

Take notes and apply same.

Hint.



OCC,

I hear good things about the 243AI(compared here to the Goat [bleep] 6mmRem AI).



For conversation,a 20" Gasser in SAAMI 243Win will scoot magfed/kissin' .530BC's to 2900fps,standing on it's head. I reckon one could rebarrel a BAR to 25-06,increase barrel length and still come in second.(grin)




Boolits matter far more than headstamps.





'35,

As "neat" as any 25-06 is at the 850yd line,a vanilla SAAMI 243Win is that much neater,due simply to it's ability to reap and roll vastly superior projectiles. For conversation a 22" 243Win with the .530BC's clipping along at a modest 3000fps initial launch('17 will getcha more),will arrive the 850yd scene at 1720fps(1500' ele in standard atmosphere),with 5.4 MOA of wind in 10mph full value,ala 40-ish grs of powder.

It do very much [bleep] with heads,that a mild mannered s/a chambering,so easily slaps l/a offerings around. But alas,Myths,Wives Tales and Ignorance,do die lingerin' deaths.(grin)

As an aside,I've often shot cleans for a belly load(3rds) on clay birds at the 750yd line via #1 contoured 23" 25-284(chambering which I much prefer over the 25-06) and 6x glass. While it's oft fashionable to cite "It's the Indian,not the arrow"...I'd be inclined to state "Beware the BEST Indian,with the BEST arrows",if only because a guy makes his own "luck". "Luck" is factored by trigger time and the schit that is the most fun to shoot,simply gets the Lion's share of trigger yankin'. Couple the inherent fun,with the inherent Ballistic advantages and a whole lotta schit gets real easy and real [bleep] fast.

A 22" 243Win will stay supersonic to 1400yds+,is no slouch at 10' and one needn't give up anything in the fray. I'll always take shorter powder columns and better BC's,especially when coupled with a shorter action,shorter barrel and increased performance. We in the business call that "Win/Win". Assuming like lengthed barrels,the 243 nudges ahead even further,though I've got no use for one longer than even 24",but dat's me.

In fairness,the ..466 BC .257" 115 Berger has never horned me up,though I've only shot 'em in Bob,Better Bob,25-284,25-06,25-06AI and 257Wby...but before I hop in the rack every night,I pray to the Boolit Gods that a .257" A-Max and Scenar is unveiled in the morning,if only because I've got me some Nostalgic Quarterbore Memories collected Afield.

Hint.(grin)

Buck1919,
go with the 243. If that is a bit mundane for you, have it punched to the AI version. This route will give you easy use of great brass and the above mentioned higher BC bullets! Couple that with being able to drive said bullets faster and preserve said brass longer and you gotta whole lotta knee slappin' to look forward to.

Pretty cool!

25-06 at work

Jordan thats interesting I never shoot Hornady bullets so I can't say with but a 107 grn. Serria I can't get it to stabilize in a 1in 9 6mm Rem. or a 243 tikka that is 1 in 10 twist.

25-06

I've always been courious. Do deer become more difficult to kill when a boy matures into a man?

You haven't been around many deer, have you?! Of COURSE they do!

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