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I know where three of those are...all about $1200-1300 bucks Let us in on it brother. Don't be holding out.....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Recent posts on this Topic have opined about the collectors market and prices in the future for rarer pre-64 Model 70 rifles....if GunBroker auction #278251380 (completed) is any indication, the market continues to be very strong at this time. Holy cow! $16,000. That is nuts! Way too easy to fake that gun to be paying that kind of money! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278251380 Not really an easy one to fake. Sure you can put a SG stock on a standard 7x57 carbine but first you have to find the 7x57 carbine and they are rarer then hen's teeth by a long shot! And I would bet that it being an SG only raised the value about $2000 which is about what a mint SG stock and metal are worth. IMHO it went for more than it's worth but two other people must have thought it was worth that or close to it. The rifle appears to be darn near mint shape, I have a 257 SG carbine that I consider to be in great shape but nowhere near what that one is. I see a lot of people commenting on fake M70's and while they can and do exist I think some people are taking the parinoia a little to far. Winchester did make a lot of odd ball guns and they have to be somewhere.
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Recent posts on this Topic have opined about the collectors market and prices in the future for rarer pre-64 Model 70 rifles....if GunBroker auction #278251380 (completed) is any indication, the market continues to be very strong at this time. Holy cow! $16,000. That is nuts! Way too easy to fake that gun to be paying that kind of money! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278251380 Not really an easy one to fake. Sure you can put a SG stock on a standard 7x57 carbine but first you have to find the 7x57 carbine and they are rarer then hen's teeth by a long shot! And I would bet that it being an SG only raised the value about $2000 which is about what a mint SG stock and metal are worth. IMHO it went for more than it's worth but two other people must have thought it was worth that or close to it. The rifle appears to be darn near mint shape, I have a 257 SG carbine that I consider to be in great shape but nowhere near what that one is. I see a lot of people commenting on fake M70's and while they can and do exist I think some people are taking the parinoia a little to far. Winchester did make a lot of odd ball guns and they have to be somewhere. Even the blue book states that in rare calibers there are more fakes than real one. I just sent back a 7x57 that had a fake barrel put on it. They could not reproduce the stippling on the front sight. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...amp;_odkw=Winchester+super&_osacat=0
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This thread has got me thinkin' again  ....I think I'm gonna set out to find a rifle just like the one being discussed here and buy it. Got around 33 700 weight steers ready for market in October  Gunner Heck you could buy three of these Winchesters.
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Don't believe that this rifle is a carbine.
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...I just sent back a 7x57 that had a fake barrel put on it. They could not reproduce the stippling on the front sight. There were various patterns used prior to '64.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
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...I just sent back a 7x57 that had a fake barrel put on it. They could not reproduce the stippling on the front sight. There were various patterns used prior to '64. Yep there were, but stippling was pre war.
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Sell it and buy two or three rifles you will shoot.
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Sell it and buy two or three rifles you will shoot. I agree with this advice. Even though I well understand the pride and joy of ownership on a piece like this, it is also a burden to own something likely unfired and so pristine. Safe dings, a slip of the hands, etc. can transform it from 100% to something less. I own a variety of vintage lever rifles and the ones I shoot the least are the Savage M1899's - the fear of a tang crack makes me  And so goes the neurosis of the collector...
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Do we have a decision yet? I am at $5500 now,no BS
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Do we have a decision yet? I am at $5500 now,no BS
No I havnt made a decision yet, but if I do decide to sell it $5500 is not going get it. Thanks for the offer.
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Where does it need to be?
Come on America,
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Where does it need to be? It needs to be in my safe until I decide to part with it. Sorry rifle, I'm just not ready to part with it at this time.
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I know..It is a gem of a rifle!!
Come on America,
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The way I see it there are only 2 smart options:
1. Don't shoot it and either keep it or sell it.
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2. Hunt with it
Shooting just for the sake of shooting it and putting it back in the safe is not a well thought out proposition.
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I think that question is one only you can answer.
Are you a collector and do you see this as an investment? If so, just keep it for the appreciation.
If you want to go shooting, get a shooter and don't shoot a collector.
If you can't afford to do both, sell the collector and pick up a shooter with a wad of money left in your pocket.
IMHO,
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sell it and go to Africa with another rifle....... Winner, winner, chicken dinner....or you could pay of debt if you got it...nah, go to Africa and hunt! 
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Shoot it if it will give you pleasure to do so.
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There are things a person can do... that give them pleasure in the moment, that they later regret. Pleasure can be fleeting And seriously, should one expect that shooting a pristine and unfired .458 is going to feel different from shooting another .458 that has been previously fired?
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