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Allways liked the way Nosler cuts thru the crap and guessing.When I started loading for my old pf M70 in 300 Win Mag I started with 180 gr NPT saw the accuracy load was with Re-22 at almost the highest velocity. WW brass,Fed 215, max dose (worked up to it)75.5 grs ,chrono'ed at 3110 fps 3 shots in 1.125 or less at 100. Figured I was good to go. Figured right, many deer, a nice 6x6 bull elk with that load, proved its moxy many times over.Fair to say it is more of a load than my M700 300Win Mag will digest though. Good BC and great performance don't really know how to do it all around any better in the 300Win mag in my M70 anyway. Magnum man
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....After awhile,I thought it was a bit much myself but near or far it always worked. It is a bit much. I've found the .243 to be plenty of gun for any deer that walks (speaking of WT and MD), personally. Pretty much any hunting-style bullet that you can load in a .300WM will be more than enough to kill a MD. Shhhhh! You're telling everyone! R. Well guys back then our agenda was both elk and mule deer,sometimes same hunt,and other times different hunts but same season....we'd be back and forth out west two,sometimes three times a year.So we would set up one rifle a season for both, or "whatever".(A 300 magnum makes a splendid "whatever" rifle. As now, the 300 made sense for the elk,and dropped big bucks like sash weights.....very gratifying.... One 300 Win Mag, a lefty action Rem 700 owned by my good pal, dropped the biggest whitetail any of us has ever taken on the Plains of Eastern Colorado, near Lamar.We call it the Truck Tire buck and there's a little story there....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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While back I had the then CFO for Nozler on a bruin hunt. He thought it sort of odd that I used a 22/250 on bruins and a 340 Wby on chucks...grin
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Dober I don't know why he'd think that way... Guess he didn't know very much, huh?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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While back I had the then CFO for Nozler on a bruin hunt. He thought it sort of odd that I used a 22/250 on bruins and a 340 Wby on chucks...grin
Dober Sounds like that guy really has problems....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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While back I had the then CFO for Nozler on a bruin hunt. He thought it sort of odd that I used a 22/250 on bruins and a 340 Wby on chucks...grin
Dober Sounds like that guy really has problems.... Did he send you a couple cases of samples ? .33VarmitVaporizers & .22BruinBusters
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While back I had the then CFO for Nozler on a bruin hunt. He thought it sort of odd that I used a 22/250 on bruins and a 340 Wby on chucks...grin
Dober There's no bloody way you could down a bruin of any sort or size with a .22 CF *grin*
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You're absolutely right... Dober
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My 300 WM really likes Nosler 180gr Nosler Partitions protected points. I've taken two whitetail (a bit of an overkill) and wouldn't hesitate to use it on mule deer, elk hogs or for that matter, black or brown bear. Will be them in CO for elk hunting again this year. So far I've only used factory ammo but this year I'm working up hand loads using H4831sc powder.
Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty.
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Just me but if'n I'm shooting at 500 yds on a deer or lope it's gonna be cause he's pretty snazzy. At that time for me it's about turfing them and now!
Dober That right there is how I feel. If I pull out the 300WM and am smoking things at 500 then I want to crush it. At that point I do not care about a pound or two of bloodshot meat. If I did I would be using the 243 instead. I run 178gr AMAX's almost exclusively in the Win Mag. WW cases and 80gr of H1000. We've shot dozens of deer with that bullet and you can count on one hand how many that didn't bounce at the shot. I shot a Muley last year that was partially hidden behind a ledge at 369yds. The only thing visible was the top half of the center of his body. With a Barnes or other "hard" bullet I would not have taken the shot because it would have been essentially a gut shot. As it were, I dialed turret and put the reticle about two inches above the ledge in the center of his body. He collapsed. The AMAX popped the diaphragm and destroyed both lungs. I prefer Amax's because of how the perform terminally, however the 155 Scenar or Berger would be absolutely cheating in the 300 for 700 yards or so and in....
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300 Win Mag?
200AB w/H1000 for everything and forget about it.
Spend your time practicing your marksmanship and scouting your area.
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Accuracy: 180 Nosler Accubond. Drop them dick dead in the mud: Nosler 180 Partitions. I never lost an elk/deer/moose to a 180 Hornady either. DICK dead?........Damn! Don't know if I've EVER killed anything DICK dead. Sounds like a REALLY bad way to go though...
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I don't understand why people use A-Max as a hunting bullet-ITS NOT- as clearly stated on Hornady's website "Match bullets are not recommended for hunting." A-Max are match bullets. Yes, they may kill an animal, but so will a stick. You can't guarantee proper expansion. And when hunting at any distance- this is not ethical hunting. Just my .02
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If I were to use my 300 as a deer-only rifle, I'd probably load 150gr TTSX and zing them right out there. BC may suck, but flight time will be short enough that I don't care.
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Don't worry so much about the best bullet, make sure you can put the bullet exactly where you want it!
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Don't worry so much about the best bullet, make sure you can put the bullet exactly where you want it! Which is why the A-Max is a good hunting bullet
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Don't worry so much about the best bullet, make sure you can put the bullet exactly where you want it! Which is why the A-Max is a good hunting bullet So with that logic-a FMJ would be a good hunting bullet-and its not!
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This speaks for the 208gr A-MAX. 6X6 bull taken in the Missouri Breaks at over 500 meters by my brother in law with a meek and mild .308. If you look close, you'll see the exit on the bull's left front shoulder....both front shoulders were broken. He dropped right there and never kicked a leg.
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Wow, that AMAX did it's thing for sure!
Pat... how'd the damage indoors look?
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This speaks for the 208gr A-MAX. 6X6 bull taken in the Missouri Breaks at over 500 meters by my brother in law with a meek and mild .308. If you look close, you'll see the exit on the bull's left front shoulder....both front shoulders were broken. He dropped right there and never kicked a leg. That's not ethical!!
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