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By Frosty Wooldridge
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Multi-culturalism scorched the streets of Paris! Multi-culturalism burns and kills in France, Holland, Belgium, Germany and Britain. Recent violence corroborates that disparate cultures cannot exist together. Do Americans understand what is happening or are we too benevolent and naive to read the writing on the wall?

Americans roll over and sleep as the Muslim and Mexican invasion accelerates in the United States. Our country invites exactly the same fate as France, Britain, Germany, Holland and Belgium. It�s only a matter of time.

Last week at the annual Ramadan dinner at the State Department, Condoleeza Rice said, �We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam.�

If Islam is the warm and fuzzy religion she purports, why did 9/11 happen? Does anyone think Mohammed Atta and his 18 WTO suicide buddies were Buddhists? Why do we have an open-ended war in Iraq and Afghanistan? Why do we spend billions on Homeland Security? Short answer: Islam followers created the most horrific terrorist acts in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Muslims machine-gunned Jews in the 1972 Olympics. They followed up with Lockerbie Flight 103 bombed out of the sky by Muslims, Bali nightclub, WTC, Pentagon, Pennsylvania corn field, Marines bombed in Lebanon, Berlin nightclub, two U.S. embassies in Africa, USS Cole, sniper Lee Malvo, killing of reporter Daniel Pearl, U.S. Army Muslim soldier Sergeant Hasan Akbar fragged senior officers�killing two in the first week of the Iraq War, train bombing in Madrid, hanging American corpses to bridges in Iraq, beheading Nick Berg and Paul Johnson on TV, suicide bombers ad nauseam, and now Paris riots.

Let�s make Islam�s goal perfectly clear! A leader for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Omar Ahmad, while standing on American soil, said, �Islam isn�t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to be dominant.�

As you can see when Bush and Condi suck up to a religion like Islam whose sole purpose is to destroy America, Mr. Ahmad�s wish materializes! The French foolishly immigrated five million Muslims. How blind are we to immigrate four million as of this writing?

Islam pretends warmth and human kindness, but actions speak otherwise when Iran�s Shiite president said, �The stain of disgrace�Israel�will be purged from the center of the Islamic world.� If given a chance, they would obliterate the Jewish race.

Bet you can hear Bush and Condi mutter under their breaths, �Gosh, that guy has hijacked a peaceful religion.�

In New Delhi, Muslims are suspected of killing 60 people while the great actor Omar Shairf has received Internet death threats from Italian Muslims for his role of playing St. Peter. Don�t you just love that peaceful religion from the sands of the Middle East?

How about the Jyllands-Posten, the Denmark newspaper that received bomb threats and became a potential terror target on an Al-Qaeda Internet list because they published 12 cartoons of Mohammed?

Islam originates from the Dark Ages while it bombs its way into the 21st century. Who are the victims? Not Bush or Condi, but you and me. They are protected while average citizens in countries around the world get bombed.

�The United States should NEVER suck up to Islam by pretending that no doctrinal or institutional link exists between the teachings of Islam and the terrorism that has benighted our days,� said Diana West in a recent column: �Celebrating Compassion and Joy� in the Washington Times.

How deadly is Islam? Check this out from the Quran: Sura 5, verse 85 describes the inevitable enmity between Muslims and non- Muslims: �Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt though find the Jews and Pagans." Sura 9, verse 5, adds: �Then fight and slay the pagans whenever you find them. Convert or kill all nonbelievers.� Sura 2, verse 193 states: �Fight them until Islam reigns supreme.� Sura 8, verse 12 states: �Instill terror in the hearts of unbelievers�cut off their heads and cut off the tips of their fingers.�

Your trusting and compassionate hearts may direct your mind to honor Islam as a peaceful religion. BUT�the realities we face have already hit France with riots, Britain with subway bombings, Holland with murder of Theo Van Gogh and growing populations of angry unassimilated poor--boiling with Islamic rage.

Islam promotes brutal treatment of women, female genital mutilation, beheadings and severe Dark Ages subscription to violence against the Jews and other religions. Islam stands as yet another nightmare in our self-destructive immigration policy.

"Since the first night, riots have swelled into a broader challenge against the French state and its security forces. The violence has exposed deep discontent in neighborhoods where African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children are trapped by poverty, unemployment, racial discrimination, crime, poor education and housing,� read a piece in the Washington Post.

What they don�t write about stems from the fact that massive importation of functionally illiterate people from the Third World cannot be assimilated into a First World country while they lack academic and language skills. The facts speak for themselves that multi-culturalism fails on all levels.

As author of �Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World�s Fastest Growing Faith,� Robert Spencer said, �The Paris riots demonstrate on a large scale: the abject failure of multiculturalist�s philosophy that disparate groups can coexist within a nation without any idea that they must share at least some basic values. The French are paying the price today for blithely assuming that France could absorb a population holding values vastly different from that of the host population without negative consequences for either.�

Last week, the president of Australia told radical Islamists who demanded Sharia Law implemented in that country, �You either accept parliamentary law or you are invited to move back out of our country.� It�s time Western democracies speak out against a religion that remains in the Dark Ages. Why? Because if it is given enough rope, it will ring our necks.

You don�t think it can happen in the United States of America? Let�s connect the dots from Paris, France to Detroit, Michigan. Years ago, Senator Spencer Abrams, with heavy Middle Eastern ties, opened the door to four million Muslims that immigrated to Detroit and other cities in America. Today in America, hundreds of mosques point toward Mecca and are built with Saudi oil money. Detroit now has Muslim prayer calls sent over the city five times a day--driving American citizens from Hamtramck, Dearborn and other suburbs of Detroit.

The immigration concept means that people invited into our country must benefit America. Isn�t this the benchmark for whom and how many are invited into our country? Separate Muslim city-states in Detroit and Freemont, California, and elsewhere promote separatism and fracturing of our country.

Facts confirm that WTC bombers enjoyed safety in Muslim Mosques in our country. Future bombers enjoy protection in those same Mosques. It�s called �ethnic sympathy�. A small amount of Muslims may be �quiet� and �unassuming� in America today, but given enough time and more immigration, they grow emboldened in their prime directive: �To convert or kill all nonbelievers.�

Bush and Condi tell us Islam means peace. Events demonstrate otherwise. Do we want massive numbers of this �great religion� in our country founded on Judeo-Christian ideals? Will we survive it?



I�m reminded of the story of the frog on the banks of a river when a scorpion walked up: �Mr. Frog,� the scorpion said. �Will you let me hop on your back and take me across the river?�

�Good grief, no,� the frog said. �You�re a scorpion and you�ll sting me.�

�Please,� the scorpion said, �I have a grave family matter to attend to and I�ll pay you very well to carry me across.�

�Well,� the frog said, �I guess I can trust you this one time.�



With that, the frog allowed the scorpion onto his back and carried him toward the other side of the river. Half way across, however, the frog felt a deadly sting in his back. Paralysis overtook his body. He struggled and after the third time that he thrashed to the surface, he looked up at the scorpion, �Why did you sting me because now we�ll both die?!�

The scorpion replied, �I�m a scorpion; it�s my nature.�

You now understand the basic tenants of Islam.

Did the Paris riots and fires catch you by surprise? Did those youthful Muslims burn 3,000 cars, kill a few French people, set a woman on fire, shoot at police and promote anarchy in their host nation? Even after France generously welcomed them into their huge welfare country?

Why did it go on for two weeks? Anybody have a clue?

As explained in Part I, Paris stands as a harbinger for what is coming to any country that imports large numbers of immigrants with disparate cultures and values that comprise the Third World. As clarified, the Middle East runs on a culture loaded with theocracy which means their religion dominates their government. It�s a deadly combination because it allows Imans and religious power brokers to keep their citizens illiterate�which is the case for much of the Middle East.

France did not and could not assimilate their massive immigrant load. Neither have Holland, Belgium, Britain and Germany.

Witness America�s next �Paris riots�. They will explode in Los Angeles or Chicago or Detroit or Atlanta or Miami�depending on the spark. Anarchy and social violence grow as America�s new slave class accelerates in sheer numbers.

Today in America, 10 million illegal alien Mexicans inhabit our major cities. We suffer 56 Mexican consulates supporting lawlessness in major cities. The commensurate fraud of counterfeited green cards, matricular consular cards, birth certificates, social security cards and driver�s licenses boggles the mind. We suffer millions of fraudulent Mexican employees by thousands of lawbreaking companies across America. Employers pay slave wages, treat illegals poorly and don�t pay taxes as they slip cash under the table. American taxpayers pick up the social/financial tabs of schooling, medical, imprisonment, crime, language chaos and diseases.

All the while, illegal alien �critical mass� numbers grow. They�ve made a trash pit out of Los Angeles and any other place they grow in high numbers. Examples abound in Chicago, Hartford, Atlanta, Houston and Phoenix. Crime and drugs escalate in areas where they have enclaved.

In twenty years, ten million illegal alien Mexicans that constitute one-tenth of Mexico transplanted themselves into America�unlawfully. Mexican President Fox enjoys $15 billion in cash transfers sent back to Mexico. His corruption that forced them over the border now reimburses him handsomely.

This can�t continue much longer. As their numbers grow in America, powerful organizations like La Raza, MALDEF, LULAC, MECHA and other separatist groups that demand the four borders states be returned to Mexico�accelerate in critical mass.

As you saw in the Paris fires, LEGAL immigrants rioted! Wait to see what happens in America when millions of illegal aliens riot in the streets of Los Angeles or any other city where a provocation occurs.

What if they don�t riot? Chances are�they will simply make living conditions SO unpleasant in our cities that Americans flee. Once critical mass takes over, those illegals can vote anything they want for themselves, i.e., horse tripping, cock fighting, dog fighting and other Third World rituals. They can and will use our Constitution for their own purposes. They will manifest Third World momentum in our country.

You can see examples in Los Angeles today. A billboard last spring read, �Los Angeles, Mexico� to announce a new TV station. Bumper stickers on thousands of cars read, �F**K YOU! THIS IS MEXICO.� Jay Leno is one of the few left in LA who speaks English. High school race riots in LA are common. Blacks and Mexicans coexist with razor sharp tension. Educational standards degrade into meaninglessness in California schools faster than you can flip a burger. Crime grows by the day as Mexicans imbed further into the systems faster than laws can imprison them. Illegal alien Mexicans comprise 95 percent of all felony warrants in Los Angeles.

Combine a slave class of illegal aliens from Mexico, Brazil, China, Central America and other volatile areas with a growing class of Muslims whose prime directive is to �dominate� America�and what have you got?

Disparate passion exploding into violence! Ask Paris, France. Ask Denmark. Ask Belgium. Ask Germany. Ask Britain.

There is no rational way we can continue, legally or illegally, immigrating millions of people with contrary cultures and languages diametrically opposed to the American way of life. I don�t give a damn if they �do the jobs that Americans won�t do.� This is national suicide�plain and simple.

You know what sickens me? The majority of Americans, like the French, sit on their asses watching TV and doing nothing--while this monster grows. What one action step will you take?

We must create �counter critical mass� SO huge and SO wide across America that we shut down the borders with an immigration moratorium. We cut legal immigration to fewer than 100,000 a year after the moratorium. We allow no amnesty or guest worker program that allows citizenship. We may let them work here for a specified amount of time, but we send them back after the berry picking season. We enforce our immigration laws in the interior with jail penalties and forfeiture of property and money for employers who break U.S. laws.



We must stop automatic citizenship for 380,000 anchor babies born here illegally each year. We stop all H-1B, H-2B and L-1 visas. Enforce a moratorium until items one through six are in place. Any national office holder who fails to enact such measures to �protect and defend� us, as our Constitution provides, must be ousted in 2006. Let�s start with Utah�s Chris Cannon and Orrin Hatch, along with Nancy Pelosi, Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Wayne Allard, Ken Salazar, John McCain, Jim Kyle, Mark Udall, Diana DeGette, Joe Baca, James Kolbe and others who serve illegal aliens and mass immigration over American citizens� interests.

Californians need to vote in Jim Gilchrist and Arizonans need Randy Graf for Congress. Average citizens in every state MUST step up for elections to the U.S Senate and House on an immigration platform. We all need to vote for Tom Tancredo for president in 2008.



It�s far past time for allowing this nation-destroying invasion to leave us in the clutches of a growing conflagration in our cities. Do we want immigrants burning down our society? Will we be the next �Rome� in future history books?

My God! We can�t be as na�ve as France! Yup! We are! However, since the Paris fires�things, they are a changin�!


George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!

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I salute and applaud your courage and patriotism, God bless you and America, but, I fear it is too late. When the ecologists, Dr. Garrett Hardin and Dr. Paul Ehrlich addressed the root cause of mass invasion of our lands by the Third World hordes some 40 years ago, they were mocked and reviled as serious environmental conservationists still are. It reminds me of Steinbeck's doleful comment in "In Dubious Battle", that "even the very people you try to help will hate you".

The currently fashionable putdown is to scream "RACISM", every time that a First World native dares to question the wisdom of a massive influx of non-traditional immigrants, legal and otherwise, to nations such as the U.S.A., Canada, the U.K. and so forth. If, we presume to even think that we have a right to preserve our own culture(s), then we are bigots, racists, neanderthals and so on.........

Here in Canada, our main problem is massive immigration from Caribbean nations, chiefly Jamaica in eastern Canada, especially Toronto and the Sikhs, Pakistanis and Hindus who are everywhere, especially here in B.C.'s Lower Mainland. The incidence of "gun" crime has just soared due to these people and the government now wants even further gun control.....my, how surprising!

The fact is that these destructive invaders manipulate our political system and DEMAND changes to our cultural symbols such as the R.C.M.P. dress uniform and even to our national anthem. They INSIST that wearing headgear and carrying daggers in Parliament be accepted, although such behaviour contravenes centuries of OUR traditions and it goes on and on and on.

I think that a racial-cultural war is coming, in fact, we are in it now and WE have every right to fight to preserve what is ours; I will not hesitate to do what I must to preserve my nation and my heritage. The Islamists, La Raza, the Sikhs, the Pakistani rioters, the Chicom and Vietcong gangs are ALL the enemy and time is running out; we need a cooperative immigration policy for North America and the northern European nations and we need it now!

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Thanks T. Steve


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I'm sometimes a little slow to pick up the latest trends etc....I saw this coming years ago...decades... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Times like this I can't even express the rage I feel about this garbage.

Someday the sheeple will awaken...it will be their blood or somebody elses that turns the rivers red. Borders exists because people of like minds differentiate from others. Perfectly natural process that has evolved on earth over thousands of years. It is a sorry affair when a country becomes so idealistic that it amounts to suicide.

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The answer, of course, is called the second amendment! Maybe we need more discussion about "How and Why it is used, rather than what it is?" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

It's kinda like the dicks on our so-called american brothers:

Use it or lose it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />

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Yeah Kute,

And when we both are long dead and gone it will still be COMING
SOON! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Courage and patriotism died a long time ago for most so-called americans! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Lip service? Lip service? Lip service? That's about as close as it's gonna come. Until we reach the point that we can look
another american in the eye and proclaim that he is the
enemy of american freedom, it will never happen!

Try doing that on this forum and see how quickly the flames
begin? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Stupid is as stupid does? Hell, even the good guys
don't know whether to wag their little american flags or
plan a NEW nation. Stupidity or gutlessness? Apathy?

Too many chickens in the pot? (pun was intended) What's the number? 6%? Unlike when I was 18, my latest answer is:

[bleep] the other 94%. They are expendable too! They are
the reason change is not possible within the systems!

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This thread needs to stay on the top. Steve


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Interesting , 2 very real threats to our country, & only a couple of "Amen Brother". I guess this crowd along with most Conservatives, worry more about the "What ifs" " Liberals & Commies". Oh yes, the liberals want to our guns away, no doubt about that.
But here we have 2 for sure threats. Silent. Right now, if we were stop the rush of illegals, it is too late. Open your eyes! They are from sea to sea & border to border. We are going to lose this country without a shot being fired!
Muslims, talking peace with them is like talking peace with the space alien in "Independence Day"! Other than Northern Ireland, they are involved in every unrest in the world! Were we too worried about the commies, that we got blindsided on 9-11?

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Don't forget those Italian and Irish Papists! They don't belong here and will change the face of America! Oops, too late.

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Why does it require "patriotism and courage" to post this stuff? Because of guys like me ?

Turns out no one is sure how many Muslims we have in the US, estimates running up to 7 million, a recent study showed less than 2 milion actively attending mosques. Are some of 'em vipers in our midst? For sure. But most ain't.

Islam threatening to take over the world? Well its in their book, but I expect that worldwide, Muslims are still killing far more of their fellow Muslims than they are us Infidels (and the Muslim world is collectively equally silent about THAT too).

Seems a safe bet that Muslims currently comprise less than 3% of our population. In France that figure is 10%. In France too they are having kids at three times the rate of the French. I expect our own Muslims are having kids at about twice the rate of us White American folks who, just like the French, are pretty much giving up on reproducing (never fear, there's still the Mormons, and we also have Mexicans <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />).

OTOH again, our own Muslims aren't all from the same place, are educated, and have pretty good job prospects unlike the situation in France (which IS NOT a "multicultural society").

10 million illegal immigrants? Is that an old estimate? WET thinks 20, I'll bet we have 15. Well, like the article points out, WE AMERICANS hire 'em. I don't recall a mention of prosecuting those who make it possible for those millions to live and work here in the first place.

MALDEF and LULAC separatist organizations calling for us to repatriate the Southwest? News to me. And MECHA is a far left group of loonies who, like PETA and Earth First, exist mostly in the rarified air of college campuses. What the article DOES seem to get at though is lumping the maybe 30 million American Citizens of Mexican Ancestry in with the whole. I live and work among a bunch of such folks, even married one, and I don't know of any who want to be Mexican-Mexican, as opposed to Mexican-American (before I hear it, I ain't promoting hyphens, just using 'em to make a point). I DO know personally a bunch of such folks currently getting shot at while in uniform for the rest of us armchair commandos over here.

I dunno if them maybe 15 million illegals we have in our midst have any burning desire to live under the Mexican government either, nor I expect do they consider themselves "slaves". Getting screwed by an American employer still beats what they can get around home apparently.

It doesn't require any unusual degree of patriotism of heroism to recognise that if we don't control our border with Mexico we are sunk. Population demographics is the most powerful force in human history, and they are growing at least twice as fast as we are, especially their poor.

Hmm... "380,000 anchor babies?"? The one thing I would be most reluctant to change is the fact that being born here makes you a citizen. My own father became a citizen that way (my mother is an "immigrant" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />).

380,000 births annually comprises about 8% of the total births in this country. If each baby allows four illegals to stay, that makes about 1.5 million, again maybe about 10% of what we already have (most of those four would be already here anyway). Not enough reason to change a fundamental American principle IMHO, especially as the laws controlling exactly how many relatives an anchor baby can anchor can be changed.

I'll bet a lot fewer such babies would be born here at all if their folks weren't able to come here and work, and THAT comes back to prosecuting Americans again.

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Excellent post. I'm going to print that out and have it handy in case I need to use it for debate...

SO very true.


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Borders, Language and Culture. Steve


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TLEE, et al.;

As much as I want to go along with what you're saying, I can't. I'll try to explain why.

I still believe, as you do, in what this country was founded upon. Freedom. Equality. Liberty. Among those, and other truths that our forefathers held self-evident was the inherent right of each person to be able to worship, or not worship, his Creator, and to follow, or not follow, that individual's faith in safety and freedom within these borders. This is a freedom that we, as Americans, have tried, and died trying, to have spread around the world.

Also, the freedom to come here, to this country, and WORK to make your own life and the lives of your family better. Our ancestors did it. People still do it. It's the American dream and why America is still a beacon in the world drawing people here with hopes and dreams of a better life.

I, like many of you, put on a uniform and swore to defend this country, the Constitution, and the ideals upon which both are based.

Islam is a religion, just like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhist, etc. It is a belief; just like the others, in a higher power and a Creator. A person can choose to believe, how strongly, and to what end, in all of those religions. And, just like the others, it can be used, twisted, and turned into an evil force. Christianity is not without it's historical blemishes, nor is Judaism, or any other religion. Should the radical "Christians", as represented by the KKK, the World Church of the Creator, etc., ever gain enough power and the wherewithall to do so, they will do unto others EXACTLY what the radical Muslims are currently doing. As would be then, the religion would not be to blame, just the wackos who would use it to justify murder and terrorism.

I'm starting ramble, so I'll try to wrap this up.

I once swore an allegiance to this country, to the Constitution, and to the idea that is, or was, America. To me, that includes defending the right of people to choose their own faith, and to have the freedom to worship. To come here, work, become PART of America, and American (not a hyphenated-American). I still, and will always support that.

Now, should anyone come here and NOT strive to become an American, to work against our nation, our people, our ideals, to harm our citizens, or to spread terror, then they should be rooted out, deported, or otherwise dealt with accordingly. But, just as our forefathers believed, the punishment should be to the INDIVIDUAL, not the group, as here in America, we as individuals make our own choices under out liberty and freedoms and should take responsibility for our own actions.

That I support. Always have, always will.




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If, we presume to even think that we have a right to preserve our own culture(s), then we are bigots, racists, neanderthals and so on.........
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yup, that about sums it up. Our kids are taught in the local brainwashschool that they should be ashamed of their northern european/english/irish/scot ancestry. And everyone else was an innocent helpless holy victim.

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The northeast "papists" keep voting in that drunken killer Kennedy... hmmmmmmm

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"It is a sorry affair when a country becomes so idealistic that it amounts to suicide."

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They ought to put that one on t shirts and bumper stickers, because that is the absolute truth. But you see; the soccer moms asked Oprah and she told them to tell their obedient husbands to just keep the checks rolling in and stay away from those gun nuts and wacko militia types. Bush is our friend, swell guy, it could be worse blah blah blah

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiji_coup_of_2000#Alleged_motives_for_the_coup

I was living in the south pacific about the time of the Fiji coup. As I understood it in simplistic terms, the "folks" from India had migrated and copulated themselves into near about a majority over the native born folks of Fiji, then they started winning elections. That was why the native folks had a coup, (as I understand it). But if I remember right, the coup was reversed. They opened the immigration gates and lost their entire culture and nation!

And you might think the folks from India just want to sell you a slurpee

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I'm a "liberal" - in a lot of ways anyways.

I too, am very upset by the people Canada and the US are letting into our respective countries. Governments keep claiming we need more numbers of immigrants because as a group, those of us who are already here aren't having enough kids.

I have a solution - make it cheaper to raise them. Take all the money spent on immigrants and ESL courses - and put it into "baby bonuses" so that those of us who are already here could find it economically viable to have bigger families. If you can't speak the language well - you can't come! Learn it first (on your own dime) - then apply!

Secondly - stop the trash from coming in. It takes a minimum of five years living in Canada to become a citizen. That time shouldbe looked at as a "probation" - with an automatic one way deportation at the end of it if you (or any of your family members) commit a serious crime or have not managed to prosper in your new country by this time - then back you go!

Let's take the best that the world has to offer - people who can benefit our respective countries - let the one's who aren't thriving in their own lands - stay where they are. If we need some immigrants - lets start with the cream of the crop! Let's start with the ones who'll adjust to our way of life with the fewest problems - that means ones with lot's of money, a proven record of success where they were already living - and a total command of our countries respective languages.

I'm all for putting the interests of my country's needs over the interests of the people wanting to move here. Immigration SHOULD be all about doing what's best for Canada and the USA - and presently - it sure isn't!

We our are own worst enemy - politicians court the "immigrant vote" - because they can - without "paying for it" at the polls! It's time the rest of us stood up for OUR rights and made it clear - if you pander to "them" - you loose OUR vote!


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It actually only takes THREE years to qualify for Canadian citizenship and people with Phd.s from England are often refused permission to immigrate to Canada; yet, my neighbourhood is flooded with East Indians, Vietnamese, Chinese and other newcomers who do not speak English, or want to. This is NOT accidental, it is deliberate Canadian government policy and has been since the late '60s.

The recent appointment of a Haitan woman and that of her predecessor, a Chinawoman, as Governor-General is a particularly offensive aspect of this whole attempt to engage in social-engineering of Canadian society. These people do NOT even understand their actual place in our government system and their extreme arrogance is increasing both racial hatred and political disfunction in this country. The entire immigration situation has been designed to make Canada a totalitarian, corporatist state with a thin veneer of "social democracy" meant to conceal reality from the serfs that we are becoming.

This has f**k**l to do with "racism" and everything to do with the destruction of freedom, democracy and individual rights. We certainly should NOT take the best and the brightest from other nations, especially the "Third World", as the rate of natural increase of the Canadian population is currently over 3 % per annum. I favour forcible repatriation of ALL non-traditional immigrants to Canada and a strict policy of allowing immigration from our founding nations ONLY....it's OUR COUNTRY!!!!

The comments about Fiji are only too pertinent and this is happening here, as well. It kind of reminds me of an old '60s tune....my country, 'tis of thy people, you're dying.... and the Liberals, Neo-Cons and Social Democrats are all equally guilty, patriotism, courage and integrity are the answer. Oops, not very politically correct....too f**k**g bad!

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kutenay,

I don't disagree with you at all, and see the same thing in my own country.

But, per my earlier post, the wrongs of now cannot be solved by wronging what is that upon which our countries are founded.

For me, therein lies the rub. How to be truly patriotic to the ideals of our homelands and the values upon which they are founded, the courage to make the RIGHT changes, and the integrity to search for and find those right answers, that is the problem.

One to which I have yet to find an adequate answer...




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