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just got some of these in a little sample pack from a pal. Wow, talk about a LONGGG bullet! Ogive looks pretty similar to a Matchking kind of profile... interested to see how they do, to say the least! I'm not sure the 175 will stabilize, but the 165 should do just fine. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m545/Tanner_Coulter/IMAG0371.jpg) left to right, 140 Berger, 165 Matrix, 175 Matrix, and a .308 165 SST for reference.
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Curious to see how that 165 works for you... ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Me too. Tanner let us know...from the WSM right?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Wicked!!
You gonna single load or mag feed?
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Yes sir, WSM case. I'll mag feed them, 165 is just off the lands at 2.92"
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Thanks, looking forward to your results!
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I'll run them over like 66gr of Retumbo and see how they run, just for some preliminary stuff. If they shoot I'll get a bunch of em.
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Checked out the bc's on their website, assuming those are VLD profile! Holy smokes!
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The BC's on the Matrix site are computer simulated, kinda like the old Berger numbers which were subsequently lowered after testing.
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Yep, I've heard the G1 for the 165 is closer to .650 than what they claim. Still damn slick, but not quite what they're saying.
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Thx 4 the report, I'd like to get my paws on some of the 165's to try in my 9 twisted .270.
I've thought about sticking a 270 tube on my M70/WSM for just that bullet.
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Let us know how they shoot for ya, I've been thinking about a 1/8" 270 Winchester ![blush blush](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/blush.gif) and might give the Matrix 165s a go if it takes the Berger Hybrids too long to get on the shelves.
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I expect that you could get them going 2800+ out of a .270 Winny, that would be a kick butt set up.
I'd like to try the Berger 170 too. My Montana has a super short throat, and I expect the Bergs would have a more aggressive ogive. The 165 gets pretty deep down in the powder column where I've got them seated, but I'm not going to try and jam them.
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Are these a mono bullet? For hunting? Do they expand or what?
Waiting on a 9 twist that is being installed right now.These bullets should be interesting...we had a discussion about them a few weeks ago.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Nope. They use a regular J4 jacket, and are a VLD bullet. They are as much for hunting as the Scenar, A-Max, etc ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) While Matrix won't officially condone their use for hunting, the feedback they've received is that the bullet works well enough for killing stuff.
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I expect (and hope) that they'd perform like a Scenar. Lots of stuff has been killed with 'em, but that doesn't really mean much
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, how about some more info on that 9 twist 270 WCF? What's that rig? Sounds perfect for an M1 if you run the 165s...
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Jordan and or others, any idea where we go to order the Matrix bullets?
Thx Dober
(side note the 140 Berg shoots lights out in my 9 twist .06 Improved)
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