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JOG, FreeMe... Thanks for pointing out the inconsistencies in my early posts. That's what I get for starting a thread at 0600 when I've been up half the night.

Yes, the point of doing the one-caliber/cartridge combo is to use the same ammo in both for economy of effort. As such, I should say I'd likely go with the 357 Mag with a 158 gr bullet, K- or L-frame revolver, and 20" M92 carbine.

oh and as I recall there was a load I worked up with AA2495 that came in right about the same too.


If you are having such a hard time with your .45-70 handgun loads you might want to email J.D. Jones.
He was very helpful to me.

How about some numbers on the powder charge in Remington brass.

As measured by Brian Pierce!!!

1-.450 Marlin Brass/73.5 grains of water (2.7 grains less than Remington 45-70 Brass!!!)

2-.45-70 Remington Brass/76.2 grains of water (1.3 grains less than Starline Brass)

3-.45-70 Starline Brass/77.5 grains of water (2.8 grains less than Winchester Brass)

4-.45-70 Winchester Brass/80.3 grains of water (4.1 grains "More" than Remington Brass)

Jayco

Jaycoff do you seriously not get this?....
Its really not that hard.


You quoting Brian Pearce's research on H2O capacity has absolutely sero to do with this.
The only thing it show it that Brian Pearce did research to find out case capacitys.

Please feel free to quote more research from other people who worked for it at any time.

Just give me your load data..Is it that hard if your not lieing?

I can give you mine without a blink for the 420/425 cast in Starline brass.

You first.

Jayco

I can give you mine.
I just think it hilarious that you don't understand why my Contender would out run your BFR with every given load.



NO CYLINDER GAP!
LONGER BARREL!

Duhhhhh....

You're welcome.

Tell Thomas to post his load.


Travis

Jayco, WTF are you on about?

The man said he gets better velocities in his Contender than a BFR revolver will give, which is not surprising given the simple internal ballistics of a Contender vs a revolver:



How Brian Pearce's water capacity numbers are pertinent to the discussion escapes me. I mean, I like Brian Pearce's approach to evaluating guns and loads as much as the next guy, but how does H2O capacity relate to the improved performance of Garrett Hammerheads in a Contender vs a BFR? The Contender is gonna "win" every time!

Anyways, the point of this thread was to discuss single caliber combinations of rifle and pistol. You say you like the BFR and a 45-70 carbine. Fine. Thanks for sharing that.

I'll give my experiences. Every one's mileage may vary.

I had a Marlin .44 mag with a 24" barrel. I shot .240 grain truncated bullets which were PMC factory ammo out of it. Kicked like a mule and was not as accurate as I had hoped. The bullet clocked about 2,000 FPS. I sold the rifle.

I have shot a Model 92 in 44-40 loaded hot and it was a sweet shooting rifle. If I had a rifle and revolver that could handle hot 44-40 loads That's what I would go to.

I never thought to shoot .44 Special loads out of my Marlin but I bet a Ruger in .44 Special with a companion rifle would be a sweet set up.

Then post your load..I have load data pressure checked with 300/350/405/420/425/525 and 550 grain loads for the 45-70.

Just post your data....

Jayco

Got two, would be hard-pressed to go with one, but since the 44 mag packs more punch than the combo in 38WCF, reckon the 44 mag would "win"?

Both pistols are Uberti SAA clones; One orig. M92 in 38WCF, one Rossi ersatz M92 in 44 mag.

Atta-boy Jayco! Don't let up!


Travis

DocRocket

I posted my choice of pistol/rifle choices and never said another word until....Tommy boy and another questioned weight and Tommy boy was belligerent and I fired back from a personal attack from T mag.

And here we are..

Look back in my post and tell me where I started it...It won't happen and I don't roll over...

Opinions are opinions and everyone is welcome to post theres until....It gets personal...

Jayco

{yawn}


You're almost begging for my load....
Jeez
Here is a hint Jaycoff.
Its Re7 and the charge is between 40-50grs







Doc, pay no mind to Old Jailbird Jayco here. He haw a real hard on for me.
Its flattering if a bit creepy.

A 92 and blackhawk in 45 Colt

Snake

For what its worth simpleton you compared a 4 1/2lb gun to a gun under 3lbs, and touted how the recoil was less.(from the no schit sherlock files)
I called you on comparing apples and oranges.
You spun off showing your cluelessness from there jailbird.

Tim, I've thought the same thing about the 44 Special...

Grow up and post your load...Don't be a coward..Just post it...

Jayco

I think a Ruger bolt in .44 and a 629 in same, would be pretty sweet.


Travis

Now that would be just about perfect.