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Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466334 05/02/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter
THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	Originally Posted by logcutter ...Then I got the 45-70 in BFR that is everything the 454 Casull is plus alot more..Alot more..A really lot more.At it chucks out 420 grain Cast from Garrett Cartridges at 32,000 PSI/CUP at 1560 fps with mild recoil in my mind but capable and made for 43,500 PSI or 40,600 CUP... Jayco Just so its clear what you are not grasping... YOUR BFR does 1560fps with a cylinder gap and less barrel... My Contender does 140fps more with MORE BARREL and NO CYLINDER GAP! We are talking about the same load...

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Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466347 05/02/12
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 18,005 Gone To Texas D DocRocket OP Campfire Ranger
OP DocRocket Campfire Ranger D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 18,005 Gone To Texas	Originally Posted by logcutter Doc..With do respect...Tube ignitions in a Marlin Levergun is from pressure/over pressure that takes the bullet and slams it into the primer in the tube full of other cartridges... Jayco Well, with all due respect, I think your understanding of the mechanism of tube ignitions is erroneous. It has nothing to do with pressure and everything to do with momentum. "I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? DocRocket #6466357 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Originally Posted by DocRocket Originally Posted by logcutter Doc..With do respect...Tube ignitions in a Marlin Levergun is from pressure/over pressure that takes the bullet and slams it into the primer in the tube full of other cartridges... Jayco Well, with all due respect, I think your understanding of the mechanism of tube ignitions is erroneous. It has nothing to do with pressure and everything to do with momentum. And momentum is not pressure in a tube magazine? Why is it only ammo that exceeded the pressures of the 450 Marlin(43,500 PSI) had magazine ignitions? Why is it the 45-70 has a SAAMI of 28K yet Garret Cartridges ammo was backed up by Marlin Firearms? None of this has anything to do about revolvers/pistols other than Tom Magnums loads are way over pressure in an 11" barrel.If his velocity is way over the line...Bet me his pressure is also. Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466379 05/02/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter
THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	Quote None of this has anything to do about revolvers/pistols other than Tom Magnums loads are way over pressure in an 11" barrel.If his velocity is way over the line...Bet me his pressure is also. IS NOT OVER THE LINE RETARD! IT IS 140FPS FASTER THAN YOUR OWN [bleep] RESULTS WITH YOU OWN [bleep] BFR! ITS 140FPS FASTER BECAUSE A TC CONTENDER HAS NO CYLINDER GAP TO BLEED OFF PRESSURE, AND BECAUSE IT HAS A LONGER BARRREL THAN YOUR [bleep] BFR TOO! YOU ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS, AND YOU'RE SO FULL OF SCHITT YOUR TEXT IS BROWN!

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466381 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Post your powder charge...150 fps can and does raise pressure alot.... Post it..Liar......... Jayco

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Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466382 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Originally Posted by THOMASMAGNUM IS NOT OVER THE LINE RETARD! IT IS 140FPS FASTER THAN YOUR OWN [bleep] RESULTS WITH YOU OWN [bleep] BFR! ITS 140FPS FASTER BECAUSE A TC CONTENDER HAS NO CYLINDER GAP TO BLEED OFF PRESSURE, AND BECAUSE IT HAS A LONGER BARRREL THAN YOUR [bleep] BFR TOO! YOU ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS! Why won't you post it??????????????? Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466397 05/02/12
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NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,787 New Hampshire	........On a set of dog tags! �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466399 05/02/12
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THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	Because you are an idiot mostly... Futhermore I have told you I get the same results using Garrets load that runs the SAME bullets. You know the one you cited as doing 1560fps in your BFR. The load I worked up is a duplicate of the Garrett in performance I worked up. How stupid can you be?.... Do you not understand that the loads are the same? YOU ARE LOSING VELOCITY BECAUSE THE CYLINDER GAP AND HAVING A SHOTER BARREL

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? NH K9 #6466406 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Originally Posted by NH K9 ........On a set of dog tags! Yeah..I can do that with my name/Serial number/blood type and faith. Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466411 05/02/12
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THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	Do you honestly not understand that gasses escape from the cylinder gap which in turn robs some of the veloctiy in a revolver? Do you honestly not understand that you are losing velocity by having a shorter barrel than by gun? Do you honestly not understand that those two factors do not affect my Contender and that is source of the extra 140fps you find so unfathomable?

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Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466413 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Quote Futhermore I have told you I get the same results using Garrets load that runs the SAME bullets. You know the one you cited as doing 1560fps in your BFR. Garrett hand cast his own bullets at his diameter..What is his bullet diameter? If you did not buy his hand cast bullets,which is impossible...Your a liar again... Your load is "Not" a duplicate matching his bullet/his powder and his primer and brass... Try reloading 101 again... Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466445 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Lets get something strait here: 1-You are not using the same Bullet as Garrett. 2-You are not using the same Powder as Garrett.. 3-You are not using the same brass as Garrett. 4-You are not using the same primer as Garrett... So tell me your loads are equal to Garretts in presure... Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466446 05/02/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter
THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	OH my god your stupidity is boundless. I give up... You really are a clueless [bleep].

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466452 05/02/12
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P_Weed Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,800 Dakota Territory	I like the 40 S&W ... in semi-autos. (Going with what I have:) Ruger PC-40 Carbine / Ghost Ring Sights Fabrique National 40 Hi-Power ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Otherwise, in 357 Mag/38 Spl: Marlin 1894-C Carbine Dan Wesson Model 15-2 DA Revolver (Or Ruger Vaquero)

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466456 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Originally Posted by THOMASMAGNUM OH my god your stupidity is boundless. I give up... You really are a clueless [bleep]. Post your powder charge in Remington brass.....Or...Shut the [bleep] up!!!!!!!!!! Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466468 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	Originally Posted by logcutter Lets get something strait here: 1-You are not using the same Bullet as Garrett. 2-You are not using the same Powder as Garrett.. 3-You are not using the same brass as Garrett. 4-You are not using the same primer as Garrett... So tell me your loads are equal to Garretts in presure... Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466470 05/02/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter
THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	I just realized in your case BFR doesn't mean Biggest Finest Revolver like MRI intended... In your case it mean Big Fugging Retard Re-7... Rem brass... Fed 210... Thats clue enough for your clueless azz.

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466486 05/02/12
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logcutter Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,295 Central Idaho	You need to go back to reloading 101...Post your powder charge to everyone instead of some poor guy that believes you... Originally Posted by logcutter Lets get something strait here: 1-You are not using the same Bullet as Garrett. 2-You are not using the same Powder as Garrett.. 3-You are not using the same brass as Garrett. 4-You are not using the same primer as Garrett... So tell me your loads are equal to Garretts in presure... Jayco Jayco

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? logcutter #6466500 05/02/12
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THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	{yawn} Keep it up schit brick. I think you starting to convince some folks. By the way what part of "worked up to" did you not understand? Last edited by THOMASMAGNUM; 05/02/12.

Re: One-Caliber Rifle-Pistol Combo? THOMASMAGNUM #6466505 05/02/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter
THOMASMAGNUM Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 7,766 Arizona	Originally Posted by THOMASMAGNUM Quote None of this has anything to do about revolvers/pistols other than Tom Magnums loads are way over pressure in an 11" barrel.If his velocity is way over the line...Bet me his pressure is also. IS NOT OVER THE LINE RETARD! IT IS 140FPS FASTER THAN YOUR OWN [bleep] RESULTS WITH YOU OWN [bleep] BFR! ITS 140FPS FASTER BECAUSE A TC CONTENDER HAS NO CYLINDER GAP TO BLEED OFF PRESSURE, AND BECAUSE IT HAS A LONGER BARRREL THAN YOUR [bleep] BFR TOO! YOU ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS, AND YOU'RE SO FULL OF SCHITT YOUR TEXT IS BROWN! Again so you'll understand this time.

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