Whatever you do, do not put a Leupold on an Ithaca Deerslayer. Parts of NY are shotgun and my Deerslayer might as well be a "scope slayer". Two Leupolds, a Simmons and a Zeiss Conquest all went back to the factory for rehab after shooting 385 gr. slugs at 1900 fps. Nikon Slug Hunter seems to be holding up.
Another great way to get some people heated up is to mention your like for Weatherby Mk V rifles. Man, the haters on some sites are brutal.
I love Mark V's! Nothing better IMO.
Wow, you and bigsqueeze , found two guys who like Weatherbys? On this site, and http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=657592 ...they HATE the Weatherby MK5, well my post here & there was for choosing a DG rifles, the Weatherby being one of 4, ( others CZ Safari Classic, Sako 85 Kodiak & McMillan Prestige ). They say PHs in Africa loath Weatherbys and they fail miserably when stressed and mildly tossed around, they are only good for the range? ONLY CRF is suitable for a DGR, not the cheap inferior PF of a Weatherby or Remington ???
Another great way to get some people heated up is to mention your like for Weatherby Mk V rifles. Man, the haters on some sites are brutal.
I love Mark V's! Nothing better IMO.
Wow, you and bigsqueeze , found two guys who like Weatherbys? On this site, and http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=657592 ...they HATE the Weatherby MK5, well my post here & there was for choosing a DG rifles, the Weatherby being one of 4, ( others CZ Safari Classic, Sako 85 Kodiak & McMillan Prestige ). They say PHs in Africa loath Weatherbys and they fail miserably when stressed and mildly tossed around, they are only good for the range? ONLY CRF is suitable for a DGR, not the cheap inferior PF of a Weatherby or Remington ???
.....They say PHs in Africa loath Weatherbys? And who might they be?
And under "what type of stress" exactly do Weatherby rifles fail miserably? And exactly under what type of "mildly tossing around" do they fail?
A Weatherby fail miserably while under stress and after being mildly tossed around?....Yeah! Sure!
Yeah! Maybe if operated by a complete and total incompetent moron.
Haven`t been to Africa,,,yet. But I wouldn`t hesitate using my Accumark under any condition or on any animal where the 338 caliber is legal.
Just read that highroad.org site. I do read where some have preferences for the CRFs, while others use, don`t mind using, and have not had any issues with their Bee push feeds.
Unless I missed something, there were no descriptions offered on that thread as to what type of stresses or under what types of being tossed around the Weatherbys fail.
If an African PH ever tells me someday that he won`t accept anyone using an Accumark, then I use another PH.
I've heard plenty of African PH's say they don't have any time for Weatherby's. It's generally always the cartridges though and not the guns. And that's generally because a lot of guys run the wrong bullets. You need a pretty stout 180 to hold together for a 50 yard shoulder shot with a .300 Bee. A 200 is a much better choice.
Whatever you do, do not put a Leupold on an Ithaca Deerslayer. Parts of NY are shotgun and my Deerslayer might as well be a "scope slayer". Two Leupolds, a Simmons and a Zeiss Conquest all went back to the factory for rehab after shooting 385 gr. slugs at 1900 fps. Nikon Slug Hunter seems to be holding up.
Wow, that's bad. I use cheap Bushnells and have never had a failure in my slug guns. I did have a cheap Simmons get the reticle rearranged by heavy turkey loads. Maybe I'm just lucky.
I've heard plenty of African PH's say they don't have any time for Weatherby's. It's generally always the cartridges though and not the guns. And that's generally because a lot of guys run the wrong bullets. You need a pretty stout 180 to hold together for a 50 yard shoulder shot with a .300 Bee. A 200 is a much better choice.
...........Oh good! I was really worried there! Not the fault of the round, the Wby rifles, but instead the bullet selection.
Too light a bullet moving too fast upon impact because it is fired from a much shorter range can cause some "holding together" problems.
...........Oh good! I was really worried there! Not the fault of the round, the Wby rifles, but instead the bullet selection.
Too light a bullet moving too fast upon impact because it is fired from a much shorter range can cause some "holding together" problems.
But would that not also apply to ANY magnum caliber? See what I mean about Weatherby bashing. If a person takes a RUM to Africa in a PF Remington and uses the wrong bullet, would those same PH's condemn all Remington's and the RUM...nope, don't think so! Ah well, as stated, I would pick another PH to pay my money to.
...........Oh good! I was really worried there! Not the fault of the round, the Wby rifles, but instead the bullet selection.
Too light a bullet moving too fast upon impact because it is fired from a much shorter range can cause some "holding together" problems.
But would that not also apply to ANY magnum caliber? See what I mean about Weatherby bashing. If a person takes a RUM to Africa in a PF Remington and uses the wrong bullet, would those same PH's condemn all Remington's and the RUM...nope, don't think so! Ah well, as stated, I would pick another PH to pay my money to.
I wonder what guys on the Weatherby forums would say about this, probably have a good laugh. I always heard Weatherby had some of the strongest bolt actions known? If they can handle those high pressure bee cartridges, how much more so the lesser magnum & standards rnds? Maybe the reputation with African PHs came from the clowns that would show up with their elephant guns biggest baddest .460 Weatherbys who could not hit the broad side of a barn? But does the bad attitude for large caliber Wbys. translate to the guy who shows up with "classic" DG calibers like .600 & .700 nitro express and likewise cannot hit the barn??? Never hear much about that, and I am sure guys show up with bolts and the well heeled hunter with a double in a traditional African big bore?
I wonder what guys on the Weatherby forums would say about this, probably have a good laugh....
Maybe that's where you should be hanging out. Go to a Winchester forum and they'll BM everything else. Mauser forum....? Same thing. If you want to use Barnes bullets, you probably won't get alot of pats on the back on a Nosler forum either.
I wonder what guys on the Weatherby forums would say about this, probably have a good laugh....
Maybe that's where you should be hanging out. Go to a Winchester forum and they'll BM everything else. Mauser forum....? Same thing. If you want to use Barnes bullets, you probably won't get alot of pats on the back on a Nosler forum either.