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Another vote for the KUIU Attack pant.
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I have been using the German mil-surp gore-tex wet weather gear with the Flecktarn camo pattern for several years and am quite happy with it. You can usually buy the suit, jacket & pants, in "like new" condition for less than $50 from a variety of on-line sellers. www.surplusplanet360.com has new/never issued pants in large for $20 or XL/XXL for $23. Jeff
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Tried a pair of Arborwear Tech pants, and haven't looked back. Love the weight, fit (like a BDU), and they don't soak up water easily.
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Sporthill 3SP Utility or the 3SP XC.
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260Remguy, do you wear those goretex german pants even when it is not raining?
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Have yet to find the hunting or hiking pant in a 34" waist with enough butt and thigh to fit me. Then, you go to 36" waist and the only thing they made bigger was the waist, like a funnel. It's ridiculous.
So i find a 36" waist that fits my legs, and need a belt. Six belt loops aren't going to keep things from bunching up in between.
On the topic of belt loops - the only pant I've seen that did this right was Mountain Hardwear - the loops are single layer material and low profile. Sitka is a disaster in this regard - they have the most godawful thick foldover multilayer loop that looks like a bedsore waiting to happen if clamped under a waistbelt for a multi-day packout.
Mammut looks like they have the belt thing sorted out - others should take note.
Sporthill's most ordinary pants look like pajamas, but work great for cooler weather. They'd be too hot for mid august sheep.
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The Sitka pants are better if you wear them with suspenders, I tried using a belt and I didn't like they way they felt.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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Sporthill's most ordinary pants look like pajamas, but work great for cooler weather. They'd be too hot for mid august sheep. That is very true.
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I've been extremely disappointed in how long it takes my Microtex Lite pants to dry. Really absurd compared to other synthetic materials.
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Would you consider the mammut champs pants a softshell or hardshell pant?
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Sporthills if it's cold/snowy. Nylon hiking pants if it's less cold--ex-officios or REI or something.
I had a pair of Cabela's thin nylon hiking pants with zip open mesh vents along the thighs that were the best hot weather hiking pants ever--but they quit making them some time back. My last pair finally wore out....
(For the briars, I've got a pair of nylon faced jeans that have held up for several years now, but they're heavy sobs.)
German army surplus goretex for the rain--they weigh nothing and work great.
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The pants I've experienced that tend to fall on the tough end are Duluth firehose, Filson tin, Filson whipcord, USGI M-1951 whipcord and the likes. Duluth Trading offers a few versions of the firehose pants - the 'work pants' are guaranteed for life. No doubt those are tough bastids. I haven't taken the dare because the mid-weight firehose cargo pants are borderline too heavy and if anything I would try a lighter pair yet. I saw on their website they now have firehose upland pants with nylon facing - I might try those in the fall.
Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense.
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US ARMY ECW Level 5 SOFT SHELL TROUSER WIND PANTS like these
“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General
John Stark.
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My KUIU Attack pants are the best I have ever tried. They will not soak under a slight drizzle, and if they do they will dry out in a few minutes. They are light, very light, just like all KUIU stuff, and they are so comfortable to wear that its like wearing pijamas or wearing nothing.
Reasonably warm to be used in cold weather with some bottom underwear, and cool enough to use in not-too-warm weather, they are my go-to pants.
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KUIU Attack vs Arborwear Tech
Anyone own both and care to chime in?
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Yes, I wear the pants as my primary outer layer, with polyprop long underwear and will add an intermediate layer of fleece if the weather is cold or I'm not moving. When I 1st wore them while stalking/still-hunting deer in thick brushy creekbottom ground, I was concerned that they would be noisy moving through the brush, a situation where wool is quiet, but they weren't. They have sort of a soft, textured, finish to the outer layer that is different from the Gen 1 & 2 US ECWCS.
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I'm in the BDU and Carhart camp. I just layer appropriately for the temp. If I'm not moving or still hunting in the cold I go with woolrich's.
Keep your powder dry and stay frosty my friends.
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Well now y'all have me looking a Kuiu pants...man I gotta quit this site. Every few days it costs me more money!
Gloria In Excelsis Deo!As far as gear goes.. The poorer (or cheaper) you are, the tougher you need to be. gpopecustomknives.com
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Ive tried them all and the Kuiu Attack pants are the best there are. So comfy and very durable. Wearing them right now.
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Kuiu Attack pants are the finest pant I have ever owned.
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