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Just found some loads for .270 getting 2700fps with the 165s, I think I will jump in and see how it goes. 165gr .738 BC at 2700 fps? Nice.
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I hope those BCs are for real.
It's about time the 270Win becomes a relevant LR chambering.
You know the gunmakers will take until forever to change out of the 1/10 twist though. Too bad about that.
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I've talked to a few guys that told me the 165s worked out closer to .650, and a few others report that Matrix's BC is pretty darn close. I will hope and pray every day of my life for Hornady to make a 155gr .277" AMAX, but it'll never happen. Just not enough demand for 'em 
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If it's BC .650, that's still really good. A 26" 270 should be able to get 2900 fps out of that without pushing it. That'll fly.
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My 24" WSM is doing 2900 with very minimal load work thus far.
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It's about time the 270Win becomes a relevant LR chambering.
All we have had for years was 135gr SMK's and 150gr BT'S!!! Glad some folks are coming around. Mike
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A smart guy on here who shoots a lot once said....."Bullets,not headstamps". Yeah, it took him 10 years to finally come to that conclusion. My smith called....my 270 with 9 twist Brux.....is....finished! smile Sub moa or bust. Probably the later. Prove me wrong.....):( Those .277 BC's sound inflated, and you won't hunt Bergers? What makes this Matrix any better?
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Mike, have you shot the 135 quite a bit?
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A smart guy on here who shoots a lot once said....."Bullets,not headstamps". Yeah, it took him 10 years to finally come to that conclusion. My smith called....my 270 with 9 twist Brux.....is....finished! smile Sub moa or bust. Probably the later. Prove me wrong.....):( Those .277 BC's sound inflated, and you won't hunt Bergers? What makes this Matrix any better? Most of Bob's stuff shoots pretty damn well. I'd put my money on well under Sub MOA.
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Mike, have you shot the 135 quite a bit? Never bothered! Have shot the 150's but never past 300 yrds so nothing to call longrange. Mike
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Ahh, got ya. I've wanted to try those 135s for a while and just haven't gotten around to it.
My brother has killed a few elk with the 150 BT, that is one heck of a bullet...
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Lilja speaks highly of the BT 150's in his Long Range article out of a .270 Wthby.
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I've read about Dan's Bee a bit. Seems that he also liked the 130 (not a BT, though) at about 3500fps!
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Gee, just think...If a 270 with matrix bullets is now a long range performer, just think what a real 6.5 -or- 7mm can do with matrix bullets.  I was thinking the same thing...but didnt want to rain on parades  277.....pawn shop deer killers :p (still gotta get me a 277 wizztana...maybe when I cash my vacation pay in)
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Gee, just think...If a 270 with matrix bullets is now a long range performer, just think what a real 6.5 -or- 7mm can do with matrix bullets. The 7mm 190 would be nasty for certain at like 2850-2900. Going REALLY fast, in a RUM/STW/Allen Mag it'd be an absolute freak. But, with the right BC bullet, I don't believe the 6.5 really kicks the 270/270WSM's ass anymore, granted there will be a bit more recoil in the .270s. A +.6 BC bullet going 2900-2950 is a +.6 BC bullet going 2900-2950, the way I see it. Not that I don't still want a 6.5/06
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Gee, just think...If a 270 with matrix bullets is now a long range performer, just think what a real 6.5 -or- 7mm can do with matrix bullets. I was thinking the same thing...but didnt want to rain on parades 277.....pawn shop deer killers :p (still gotta get me a 277 wizztana...maybe when I cash my vacation pay in) Win or Wizzum?
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Win or Wizzum? Last year i traded into an 8400 Wintucky (270 WCF). Its what gave me the itch to buy my 223 'Tana. We get paid our vacation pay every 6 months...needless to say I have my eyes peeled for a WSM Montanny right now Heres what I eloquently referred to as "Wintucky". Was a long mag action, lets just say I could kiss lands and make most 270 WSMs nervouse speedwise ![[Linked Image]](http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae310/archie_james_c/000_0001.jpg)
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Dude, you're about a week and a half late. You could have had my 7WSM Montana...
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Guys,
Matrix BC values are static, calculate BC's. Litz tested the 190gr 7mm Matrix VLD, and found the true G1 value to be somewhat under the static value listed. FWIW.
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Nice, killer rig there. Mine doesn't scream velocity wise, may have to wake it up with Magpro I'm looking at 3100-3150 with 140s currently.
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