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Stupid statements by more folk with no experience. Par for the 24hr course, of course.
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Stupid statements by more folk with no experience. Par for the 24hr course, of course. why am I being attacked, I am only sharing lessons I have learned in my 65 years of hunting and shooting. I guess some people have nothing more to do in their boring lifes.
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Stupid statements by more folk with no experience. Par for the 24hr course, of course. why am I being attacked, I am only sharing lessons I have learned in my 65 years of hunting and shooting. I guess some people have nothing more to do in their boring lifes. If you have to ask, I'll tell you why. Because you are espousing a bunch of garbage that is not only untrue but it further propagates lies and mythology that damage several different sports and shooting activities. Please simply stick to what you know, which is obviously not blackpowder cartridge rifles. What gets passed around on this forum as gospel is just nauseating. I can't make it any clearer than that.
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Stupid statements by more folk with no experience. Par for the 24hr course, of course. why am I being attacked, I am only sharing lessons I have learned in my 65 years of hunting and shooting. I guess some people have nothing more to do in their boring lifes. If you have to ask, I'll tell you why. Because you are espousing a bunch of garbage that is not only untrue but it further propagates lies and mythology that damage several different sports and shooting activities. Please simply stick to what you know, which is obviously not blackpowder cartridge rifles. What gets passed around on this forum as gospel is just nauseating. I can't make it any clearer than that. I am withdrawing all my statemnts, there are no way to talk to a fool. I have checked his other posts and now know what a dipchit I am involved with. He thrives on calling people names on the innernet.
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Surely you could do better than that. IF you knew what you were talking about. But you don't. the fact is that many people do it on a regular basis without the slightest problem. So, you connect the dots. They can and do, you can't and don't. You ain't got a clue. That's how it works.
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People are fasinated by blackpowder. It's ok in guns that aren't hard to clean. That's not the case with leverguns. The crud turns into acid when mixed with humidity. It's a pain to completely disassemble a 336 receiver. I've only been at this for nearly 50 years. A novice will say it's ok because they are a novice. Don't do it....
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*Wanders off muttering* Remind self to tell all those BP CAS shooters that their guns are going to dissolve from the acid in the BP residue.
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any comments I made is for the average shooter not a competior. The average shooter will not clean his firearms properly, I have bought guns that never saw a black powder load that were so gummed up they simply would not operate.the competion shooters will take care of their guns and probably never have a problem, use common sense and stop muttering.
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Sadly, not cleaning is not cleaning. Lever guns clean easily, and Marlins in particular come apart so simply it is ridiculous. Even average shooters can do it. Guys like Swamp are far far below average so that explains his problems with wiping down a 336 but anyone with normal coordination and intelligence can do it blindfolded.
I believe Chip Mate said he cleans the action of his Henry only once per year. And it sees a lot more shooting that the average person's rifle for certain. These guns are not hard to operate with black and they will not dissolve into a pile of rusty dust at a moment's notice.
and frankly, I am finding that they shoot a lot better with black too.
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any comments I made is for the average shooter not a competior. The average shooter will not clean his firearms properly, I have bought guns that never saw a black powder load that were so gummed up they simply would not operate.the competion shooters will take care of their guns and probably never have a problem, use common sense and stop muttering. Actually you'll find average shooters clean their firearms, it's the idiots that don't. see brents comments regarding swampy
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Or:
Actually you'll find even average shooters clean their firearms properly, it's the idiots that don't.
see brents comments regarding swampy
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Shooters don't need to clean their firearms if they avoid blackpowder. If you don't have a life then you have hours to properly clean a gun that wasn't designed to use blackpowder in.
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If you had a brain, you could strip, clean and reassemble a Marlin rifle in about 5 minutes. But you have to have a brain. Guess you missed out.
PS. They were designed to shoot black powder. Another issue you missed for lack of a brain.
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Not properly...nor can you. It's very clear you have no idea what you're talking about. That's nothing new....novice....sheesh!
The 336 was not designed to shoot blackpowder.
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The 336 is a round bolt version of the 93/94 etc. It comes apart exactly the same way. And cleans exactly the same way.
and not only can I, I did as recently as yesterday.
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I'd love to see some pics of your rifles swampy, taken with a bore scope, just to see these miracle non cleaning rifles and the condition of the bores. Would probably explain a lot about your shooting.
p.s. did it hurt when your mama dropped you on your head?
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I've fixed dozens of rifles just by getting their owners to stop cleaning them. They went from 1.5 MOA to .5 MOA in no time. A novice will clean his rifle everytime because it used to be necessary. Once a year is plenty these days. I received an email from Iraq from about 50 Scout Snipers agreeing with my never try to hunt with a clean rifle comments. The 336 isn't designed to shoot blackpowder in. It's nothing like a 93/94.
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I received an email from Iraq from about 50 Scout Snipers agreeing with my never try to hunt with a clean rifle comments. Yep, sure you did, cause every sniper fires fouling shots before lining up on a muzzie.
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Do you know what company of Henry rifle this Chip Mate is shooting?
I see Uberti is selling Henry rifles for about $1300.
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