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Re: Model 70's in McMillan's erickg #6502104 05/14/12
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,107 cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker
cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,107	those compact stocks look just like a remington classic, any idea if the remington classic can be inletted for the winchester??

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Re: Model 70's in McMillan's cumminscowboy #6503136 05/14/12
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utah708 Campfire Outfitter U Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578	Remington actions have a very different tang angle, and it does not work so well to modify a Remington pattern to fit a M70. I did it once (shown below), but it took more effort than it was worth.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's utah708 #6504995 05/15/12
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Oklahoma Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,981 SE Okla	M70...Factory 300WSM..... Wipe your mouth, there's still a tiny bit of bullshit around your lips.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's Huntr #6506208 05/15/12
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docdb Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,572	Originally Posted by Huntr LH SS Win in 30-06 I'll take that one when you are tired of it!!!

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's erickg #6506724 05/15/12
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,999 Alaska 3 358wsm Campfire Regular
358wsm Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,999 Alaska	I don't have a set of postal scales...but I have some black plastic garbage bags, and a Tops friendly food market with a wonderfully equipped produce section just down the road Rolling the cart from the parking lot right past the bottle return, I found my bag with it's contents resting neatly upon the digital produce scale. I just happened to have a second bag, for obvious reasons. The total weight of my Win-Tuff laminated FWT stock (minus bag weight) came in at 32.64oz. Looks like the EDGE will allow me to instantly drop 3/4 lb. Can somebody tell me what the weight difference is between the SA 2 piece bottom metal and that of the PT&G..? Please "I'd rather have an Army of Asses led by a Lion, than an Army of Lions led by an Ass." (George Washington)

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Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6506764 05/15/12
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deerhunter5555 Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,308 Ohio	Originally Posted by 358wsm I don't have a set of postal scales...but I have some black plastic garbage bags, and a Tops friendly food market with a wonderfully equipped produce section just down the road Rolling the cart from the parking lot right past the bottle return, I found my bag with it's contents resting neatly upon the digital produce scale. I just happened to have a second bag, for obvious reasons. The total weight of my Win-Tuff laminated FWT stock (minus bag weight) came in at 32.64oz. Looks like the EDGE will allow me to instantly drop 3/4 lb. Can somebody tell me what the weight difference is between the SA 2 piece bottom metal and that of the PT&G..? Please Now THAT's thinking outside the box! Buy once, cry once.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's deerhunter5555 #6506806 05/15/12
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358wsm Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,999 Alaska	"I'd rather have an Army of Asses led by a Lion, than an Army of Lions led by an Ass." (George Washington)

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6507021 05/15/12
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bwinters Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,841 Smoky Mountains, TN	M70 SS Featherweight 7 WSM (top), SS M70 Classic in 7RM - both in McM Edge. Last edited by bwinters; 05/15/12. Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6507025 05/15/12
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rj308 Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,738	358WSM, My SA 2 piece bottom metal (SS) weighs 5.5 ounces. I believe the PT&G website quotes 2.75 ounces for their aluminum SA bottom metal set, for a weight savings of 2.75 ounces. I tried for weeks to get a PT&G set. They kept telling me they had it in stock and would ship it "tomorrow". This went on for 3 weeks. I finally said, enough of this BS and ordered a one piece set from Winchester. The Winchester floor plate is stainless and the rest is aluminum. My set-up is only a shade over an ounce heavier than the all aluminum PT&G set. A slightly heavier bird in the hand is better than two (PT&G bottom metal) in the bush. Last edited by rj308; 05/15/12.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's bwinters #6507107 05/15/12
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BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by bwinters M70 SS Featherweight 7 WSM (top), SS M70 Classic in 7RM - both in McM Edge. Ooohhh..........those are nice! The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

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Re: Model 70's in McMillan's erickg #6507576 05/15/12
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358wsm Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,999 Alaska	Can these McM EDG's can also be had in ADL configuration, and further reduce weight..? And...if so, what is used for a trigger guard.? Just thinking of that option versus going the PT&G route. "I'd rather have an Army of Asses led by a Lion, than an Army of Lions led by an Ass." (George Washington)

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6508767 05/16/12
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ChetAF Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,594 Central Rockies	Here are a couple of mine. This one is a pre-64 70 FWT in 270 WCF in a Legend pattern stock: This one is a M70 Classic in 7mm RM also in a Legend pattern stock: [img]http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb400/Chetaf/Echols7mm002.jpg[/img] Chet The first great thing is to find yourself and for that you need solitude and contemplation. I can tell you deliverance will not come from the rushing noisy centers of civilization. It will come from the lonely places. Fridtjof Nansen

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's ChetAF #6508788 05/16/12
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KDK Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,293 home in OR!	Damn, I may have to get a Legend or two... Nice rig! Originally Posted by ingwe This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6508831 05/16/12
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ChetAF Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,594 Central Rockies	Originally Posted by 358wsm Can these McM EDG's can also be had in ADL configuration, and further reduce weight..? And...if so, what is used for a trigger guard.? Just thinking of that option versus going the PT&G route. Yes, I have done that before. I have a 30-06 Classic Stainless with a McMillan Hunters EDGE with a blind mag. I used the Williams M70 ADL triggerguard. I don't think you save more than an ounce by using the blind mag over the PT&G aluminum bottom metal. The Williams ADL triggerguard is steel and is fairly heavy. You also lose one round with the blind magazine. Mine only holds four rounds. If I were to do it again, I would go with the PT&G bottom metal or possibly the Echols alloy bottom metal if I had a lot of extra $$$. Chet Last edited by Chetaf; 05/16/12. The first great thing is to find yourself and for that you need solitude and contemplation. I can tell you deliverance will not come from the rushing noisy centers of civilization. It will come from the lonely places. Fridtjof Nansen

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's ChetAF #6508940 05/16/12
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Blackbrush Campfire Regular B Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 911 Somewhere down in TX or up in ...	I haven't had them in hand but the Williams looks a bit more elegant than the PT&G. I'd like to have the lighter weight aluminum PT&G Oberndorf style but it looks ungainly in photos especially at the front of the trigger guard where the release is. The Williams seems to be sleeker. Ok Chet.............what's the story on your scope mounts? They look like Echols. I gotta know. Fine rifles.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's Blackbrush #6509044 05/16/12
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ChetAF Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,594 Central Rockies	Originally Posted by gabbott I haven't had them in hand but the Williams looks a bit more elegant than the PT&G. I'd like to have the lighter weight aluminum PT&G Oberndorf style but it looks ungainly in photos especially at the front of the trigger guard where the release is. The Williams seems to be sleeker. Ok Chet.............what's the story on your scope mounts? They look like Echols. I gotta know. Fine rifles. They are Echols steel mounts. Chet The first great thing is to find yourself and for that you need solitude and contemplation. I can tell you deliverance will not come from the rushing noisy centers of civilization. It will come from the lonely places. Fridtjof Nansen

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's ChetAF #6509609 05/16/12
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358wsm Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,999 Alaska	Chetaf, Thank you for that information, I found it very helpful. "I'd rather have an Army of Asses led by a Lion, than an Army of Lions led by an Ass." (George Washington)

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's 358wsm #6514593 05/18/12
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handwerk Campfire Tracker H Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,377 N.E. Mn./ Mt	Chetaf, wow great looking rifles.....nice work. The legend stock sure is a great design. Last edited by handwerk; 05/18/12.

Re: Model 70's in McMillan's handwerk #6514637 05/18/12
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utah708 Campfire Outfitter U Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578	This is a Legend EDGE 7mm Rem. I don't have much to add in terms of the aesthetics discussion, but this gun weighs 8# 1 oz as shown. The barrel contour contributes to the light weight and it balances just right. It did account for a 575 yard kill on a MT whitetailed deer last fall. If I was limited to one big game rifle for NA, it might be this one.

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