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She'll be ridin' shotgun tomorrow....
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Hey, I could live for an entire lifetime shooting nothing but the .223 Normal or the .223 Ackley. And simply H-335 with 40-Ballistics.
I've killed as many prairie dogs and coyotes and most anybody and the .223 just works ... want an extra 50yards, Improve it.
I've learned one thing in my looong life; a GOOD man with the .223 is frickin' AWESOME. Same goes for the .30-'06. Don't need more and less is too little.
God Bless,
Steve
"God Loves Each Of Us As If There Were Only One Of Us" Saint Augustine of Hippo - AD 397
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Of all the varmint rifles I have had my ultimate so far is my Kimber Montana 223 with a VX-3 2.5-8x36 w/ M1 dial. I just wish Hornady would come out with an AMAX in 65-69gr.
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Hey, I could live for an entire lifetime shooting nothing but the .223 Normal or the .223 Ackley. And simply H-335 with 40-Ballistics. Steve, I totally agree...... I've got my own reamer for a normal, 250" neck, zero freebore specifically for the 40 BT's, of which I rat holed several thousand away before the metals went haywire......coupled with several jugs of AA-2230-C. My idea of high cotton.......
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Nothing at all wrong with a 22-250. It's done it all, but the 204 Ruger will do it as well, less muzzle jump. For varmints....it gets my nod. For predators(saving hides)a 17 Rem (or maybe 17-204 *grin*). Working on one just like my 204 below but put together in a 17 Cal. (cant just buy one in 17) I have had both, now want both in the same rifle. Just my 2 cents and dont mean I WONT buy another 22-250. Still love em, but wont be because I "need" one with these two. Just another fun gun. In fact I just realized Id trade for a CZ 550 in 22-250 for my second NIB 204 in classifieds. WHY didnt I think of that? lol God Bless
"I realize that it is natural for the people who disagree with me to think I am wrong, and I am not so arrogant as to deny that possibility."
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here is how i see it the ultimit varmint gun is the one you reach for the most.. here is my list of rifles 1885 k hornet ruger 77 hornet sako hornet #3 k hornet sako 222 colt 223 (sako) rem 223ackley savage 223 3 700 22-250s sako 220 swift ruger swift rem 6-250 sako 6-284 sako 20 tac rem 17 fb cooper 204 rem 223 tactical 2 17 hm2 17 hmr rhe reach for gun is the 223 tactical. it shoots 40 gr v max and 52 gr tsx same poa. it goes gopher hunting pd hunting coyote hunting even killd a deer with it while calling coyotes during deer season. it is short reasonably light easy to handle heavy enough to make longer shots. just about the perfict varmint hunting platform. as you can see from the list it took me awhile to figure this out..i still use all the other ones but the 223 tac is always with me.
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Fast twist 223AI and 75AMAXs.
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.243 has done everything i ever need it to on varmints. but if i shot high volume, .204.
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I love that pic. Looking at the barrel axis vs. the scope axis gives you an idea of how much elevation was necessary.
It's all in the reflexes.
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A ruger number 1 45-70 shooting 300 gr hp hornady will do well on keeping groundhogs out of the sweet peas. Whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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M_S, does your .223 T3 have the 8 or 12 twist? I understand they offer both.
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A few years back (about 30 yrs) I decided to build my version of the ultimate "calling" rifle. I settled on a Mauser 98 with a 20" barrel with the profile of the WW70 FWT chambered for my version of the .250 Savage Imp. The stock is a Fajen Thumbhole. When out after 'yotes, I use mostly Sierra 87 grainers, but from time to time I run some Hornady or Speer through. When I'm playing with jackass rabbits, I usually use Hornady 60 grainers, either RN or pointed, whichever I find at the store. When I lived in Alaska, I used 90gr HPs for the local Sitka blacktail. The scope is a Redfield Widefield 2-7X. If I'm into production shooting, like our Richardson squirrel, here in Nevada, I bring out my Remington M700V in .222 filled with Speer 52gr HPs. The scope is an 8-32X, and I've carried THIS gun for over 40 years. Some times I carry a second rifle to let the other "cool". It's a Winchester High-Wall in .219 Zipper Improved with a heavy barrel and BR stock and muzzle-brake so I can watch those "picket-pins" go through their contorsions wayyy out there. The scope is a Redfield 20X M3200. I've only used this one for the last 5 years, or so. Have fun, Gene
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The pursuit of the ultimate varmint gun is like the pursuit of the ultimate golf club so you don't have to carry that darn bag around.
I'm thinking a minimum of a 17 HMR, 204 Ruger, and a 243 to cover most scenarios.
The 17 HMR created a niche of it's own. The 204 Ruger nudges the 223 aside a bit in mind for a balanced mid weight performer. The 243 still king of the hill for when you want to lay the smack down right now on bigger vermin. Anything less is less and anything more too much so.
I'm doubting there is going to be a consensus here.
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You westerners have all the fun with your long range shots and fancy wildcat custom guns! Back here with have to stick with our air guns or subsonic .22s or the neighbors will have five oh on our azz. Yesterday I saw something moving through the back yard and I knew it was not a squirrel. Yes, it was a big rat, maybe 6-8", not counting the tail. Damn, I did not have my air rifle when I needed it!
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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FVA change that 243 to a 260 and you nailed my lineup, 700+ the 243 didn't carry like I wanted it too. The pursuit of the ultimate varmint gun is like the pursuit of the ultimate golf club so you don't have to carry that darn bag around.
I'm thinking a minimum of a 17 HMR, 204 Ruger, and a 243 to cover most scenarios.
The 17 HMR created a niche of it's own. The 204 Ruger nudges the 223 aside a bit in mind for a balanced mid weight performer. The 243 still king of the hill for when you want to lay the smack down right now on bigger vermin. Anything less is less and anything more too much so.
I'm doubting there is going to be a consensus here.
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