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i am planning an ibex hunt in krghyzstan in the near future
what caliber would you guys recommend?
shot ranges from 300+
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.270, 30-06, .308, 300wm, etc
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+1; have not hunted there that much . bet the most popular is a 300 mag though.
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My wife's best friend (who now lives in London) had a really good friend when she lived here who was from Kazakhstan. We partied and went out with those two many times, including several times when her brother (who still lives in Kazakhstan) was here visiting for several months.
Guess what her bother hunts? Yep....ibex.
He said rifles need to be light as altitude (over 10,000') and long days afoot are the norm.
We had more than one conversation about it and of course, cartridges for ibex was always a hot topic.
He personally used a .270 Win with 150gr bullets and thought it was about as good a choice as there is. He said there were lots of hunters who used handloaded 6.5x55, and a few of the European equivalents of our .280 and 7mm mags.
His thoughts were anything from 6.5mm to 7mm that shoots flat and bucks wind using good, aerodynamic bullets would be perfect. He said recoil could be an issues as often footing and getting a solid rest could be problems and he'd seen big .300s and .338s decorate an eyebrow right in the middle of a hunt, even ending a hunt for one of his sports.
Based on his feedback, and knowing you'll want headstamped brass due to the international travel involved, I'd say:
.260 Rem shooting 123gr Lapua Scenar or 130gr Accubonds, TSX or VLD
6.5 x .284 Norma (this would be my personal choice) shooting 130gr TSX, 139gr Lapua Scenar or 140gr Berger VLD
.270 Win shooting 130gr TTSX, 140gr TSX, Accubond or VLD
.270 Roy/WSM shooting 140s or 150s
.280 Rem/.280 AI shooting 140-150gr TTSX
7mm mags ("standard" only, such as Rem, Wby, WSM or SAUM) shooting 150-160gr bullets.
I think it'd make no sense to go to the really big 7s (RUM and such) becasue then you're getting the recoil of the .300s, which you may want to avoid.
Funny thing is, his experience mirrors mine in that the "standard" 7mm mags are about as big as I can shoot without some discomfort and without having to worry about getting a super-solid purchase behind the butt pad.
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i have been shooting my rem Ti 7mm-08, for everything so far, was just wondering if i needed something shooting flatter
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If you shoot it well and are confident in it (and it has a barrel at least 22" long), I'd take it and use good, aerodynamic 140gr bullets like a TTSX, Accubond or VLD.
That's a sweet, lightweight rig that should be about perfect for carrying around those mountains!
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I used a .270 shooting 130 grain Accubonds when I went to Kyrgyzstan in 2007, and was very pleased with the decision. Many cartridges will do. A flat trajectory is helpful as ranges can be long. I shot mine at a lasered 305 yards on a calm morning -- about my personal range limit. The guide wanted me to shoot at 418 yards the afternoon before in a howling cross wind. I declined.
Have fun -- it was a great adventure! The altitude was tough, but we rode horses from the base camp into the mountains where we spike camped.
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I have successfully hunted Ibex, twice-
First hunt was in Mongolia, for Gobi Ibex. I took my .300 Weatherby Mk. V., and shot 165 gr. Nosler BT bullets. It was great to have along a rifle I have great confidence in, and it did not let me down.
Second hunt was in eastern Spain, for Beceite Ibex. Rifle was a Blaser, in .300 Win. Mag. Shot distance was 250 measured yards, and again was a perfect choice for the game.
I know that lesser calibers and cartridges will work- I feel that it is with the goats, and larger sheep, in mountainous country where an escaping animal can present a near impossible recovery, that the big .30's really come into their own.
My current go-to load for the .300 Wby. is the Barnes TSX 165 gr. bullet at 3400 fps. Sighted in at 2" high for 100 yd., it is simply a hold-on proposition for game well past 300 yards. Given the chance to hunt Ibex again someday, somewhere, this is very likely the load I will use in the MkV.
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i have been shooting my rem Ti 7mm-08, for everything so far, was just wondering if i needed something shooting flatter IMHO you are all set. That is unless you want a new rifle in that case the 7/08 will not work!
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i am planning an ibex hunt in krghyzstan in the near future
what caliber would you guys recommend?
shot ranges from 300+ The caliber .300WinMag is OK! But the shot distance can be 300-500meters. ![[Linked Image]](http://i5.pixs.ru/storage/5/4/1/IMG0101jpg_7955014_3173541.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i5.pixs.ru/storage/7/2/0/DSC09269JP_9682792_3140720.jpg)
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My wife's best friend (who now lives in London) had a really good friend when she lived here who was from Kazakhstan. We partied and went out with those two many times, including several times when her brother (who still lives in Kazakhstan) was here visiting for several months.
Guess what her bother hunts? Yep....ibex.
He said rifles need to be light as altitude (over 10,000') and long days afoot are the norm.
We had more than one conversation about it and of course, cartridges for ibex was always a hot topic.
He personally used a .270 Win with 150gr bullets and thought it was about as good a choice as there is. He said there were lots of hunters who used handloaded 6.5x55, and a few of the European equivalents of our .280 and 7mm mags.
His thoughts were anything from 6.5mm to 7mm that shoots flat and bucks wind using good, aerodynamic bullets would be perfect. He said recoil could be an issues as often footing and getting a solid rest could be problems and he'd seen big .300s and .338s decorate an eyebrow right in the middle of a hunt, even ending a hunt for one of his sports.
Based on his feedback, and knowing you'll want headstamped brass due to the international travel involved, I'd say:
.260 Rem shooting 123gr Lapua Scenar or 130gr Accubonds, TSX or VLD
6.5 x .284 Norma (this would be my personal choice) shooting 130gr TSX, 139gr Lapua Scenar or 140gr Berger VLD
.270 Win shooting 130gr TTSX, 140gr TSX, Accubond or VLD
.270 Roy/WSM shooting 140s or 150s
.280 Rem/.280 AI shooting 140-150gr TTSX
7mm mags ("standard" only, such as Rem, Wby, WSM or SAUM) shooting 150-160gr bullets.
I think it'd make no sense to go to the really big 7s (RUM and such) becasue then you're getting the recoil of the .300s, which you may want to avoid.
Funny thing is, his experience mirrors mine in that the "standard" 7mm mags are about as big as I can shoot without some discomfort and without having to worry about getting a super-solid purchase behind the butt pad. You have told a lot of correct, but it is Kazakhstan. Mountains in Kazakhstan differ from Kirgizstana. In Kazakhstan not such high and the distance of shooting is less than mountain than in Kyrgyzstan. With calibre 260 and 270 - I wouldn't began to risk. And in the friend it is necessary to shoot on 500 meters? Regards Igor
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