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Oregon: Good article in the G&A 2010 Buyers Guide by Boddington on the 400 Jeffrey 3" in the Ruger #1...pretty neat stuff!Hats off to Hornady and Ruger for bring back the rifle and cartridges.

landandtimber: Thanks for the info and that is a great rifle!Does NF make two weights of bullets? 400 and 380 gr?


Only 380 as far as I know.

OK thanks.

sorry Northfork has for the 404 340 gr. softs, 380 gr softs, and 380 gr. CPS and FNSolids

Land: Thanks once again.....

I never know what weight my North Forks are because I was testing a lot of different weights for North Fork early on..and Mike was working with me on the cup points..I have some 370 gr. softs and they must have been some of the experimental stuff..they worked real well. Good to be refreshed on what Mike settled on or the new owners, whoever! Darn good big game bullets for sure.

Ray what is the deal and advantage to the Cup point solids? I have been using the GS Custom FN Flat nose solids, and they work fine on buffalo.

Working a load for a new 375 for next year. Was going to try NF 300 gr. SS and CPS.

For Jim Corbett, the 450/400 did very well on tigers. I would think the .404, with about 200 FPS more velocity would do just as well or better.

John Taylor liked it, also, the 450/400.

Ray

I gurantee you I would have jumped on that if I would have seen it. Although I did not bid on a recent double 375 H&H Fanzoi with a 20 guage barrel. This rifle was coin silver, rose and scroll engraved built in the late 60's.

I do have a good excuse though, I have 2 custom magnum mausers and a model 70 due in about 3 months. Sometimes you just have to put the breaks on this addiction. I did want a 375 flanged, though this gun was well worth the auction price of 5000.00 it went for.

When your retired you have time to look for these kinds of things lol.

Cheers,
Roger D.

Great looking rifle.

Here's an interesting classic 404 magazine rifle by an old line American firm

http://www.hallowellco.com/hoffman_404.htm

Landandtimber,
I also have used the GS Customs flat nose solids and they are an excellent solid..The GS Customs HVHP is also an outstanding buffalo bullet...

But to answer your question what I like about the cup point is that it expands just a little bit, but that little bit is very effective on all game, and it still penetrates as much as most solids do..I have recovered about 7 of them, and that required a lot of buffalo to get that many as they mostly leave an exit hole..The 40 clibers expand to 50 or 55. the .470 expands to 65 or 70..I can use one bullet for anything I want to shoot..I have shot a lot of plainsgame with them and they work great..I shot two Impala for meat one day and later that same day shot a nice buffalo. I really like them. I have those seven bullets photographed and if you would like to see them send me your email address..I can't post the pictures here, thats beyond my computer ig..

Wildcatter:....man that Hoffman is nice!

Bob, strictly window shopping, but always good to see rifles from our Golden Era still out there. It probably has some interesting stories to tell.

Agreed....did you see that Maurice Ottmar 404 in Guns International Custom rifles?.......wish I had $10k hanging around doing nothing.......

Hi Bob

Another easy on the shoulder big-bore is the 10.75X68. They are a dream to shoot and make real big holes. I see them pop up for sale once and a while at reasonable prices. RWS was probably the last Commercial company to load them. Most are loaded with 347gr. bullets. They built some nice one's on various Mauser actions. I owned a Pre-war Sauer double rifle in this cartridge and it was the most accurate double I probably ever owned, shouldn't of sold it it. Just food for thought, but you can't go wrong with a 404 !!

Dino

Dino: Thanks for that info...I knew nothing of that cartridge.

400 Holland and Holland is a ballistic twin, brass made by Qual cartridge or easily from 375 H&H. Uses easily found .411 bullets. Easy to load, very accurate and will crush anything you wish to.

My custom 700 (can't afford a "real" H&H) and the cartridge on far right is 400 with 400 gr Woodleigh (what H&H loads them with).

Oldman: Yes I have read about the 400H&H;interesting cartridge....from what I have read,seems they went to great effort to get it right. Thanks!

Old thread and a good one that needs to be bumped up to current.

Bob,

Need an update on this project.

You've given me the .404 J bug...

DF

I am also very interested in the .404J and I am happy to see the revival over the past two decades of really useful, traditional rounds like this and the superb 9.3x62 Bock. I wish that I had been able to obtain a pair of Brno ZG-47 rifles in 9.3 and a reliable source of good components when I first began working in BC's wilderness as a entry-level BCFS staffer and then as a "Lookoutman", a job I loved more than any other I have done.

These two rounds and the 7x64, .270 Win., .280Rem. impress me as being about "perfect" for any big game hunting or wilderness protection work one might ever do and I enjoy all posts here relating to them.

Bob, my friend, have you obtained a .404 and, if so, what is it? My first choice on today's market would be one of Wayne's rifles from AHR and I may yet mortgage my battered soul and buy one. I can tell you that the dealings I have had with him as well as those by serious "gunnut" friends of mine, make me absolutely confident in buying and using a rifle from him.