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I'll be the last person to complain, as there is no difference between the two. Those thinking that there is are fooling themselves.

And those who don't vote too..

No, we don't. We make a choice not to participate in a false contest between two sociopathic lairs, justifying it by repeating rationalizations such as "the lesser of two evils" and other such drivel.

Evil is evil, lesser or greater, and actively choosing it is something with which I am finished.

Maybe,..but I've been watching the responses of the young Liberty Movement people on line since Rand's endorsement of Romney and a lot of them have given up on politics. The rest are still under the illusion that they can take over the GOP from the inside.

As I've mentioned before, there's 97 million people in the millenial generation and 50 more in gen X.

The vast majority of them have no future.

In a few years I suspect that they're going to stop playing nice.

Bringing America down has been in the plans for a long time. NAFTA and GATT, for example, were designed to send our manufacturing base overseas before the economy imploded at home as planned. The financial elite (technocrats) have been plotting one world dictatorial government since before WWI, which couldn't be accomplished so long as America was prosperous and independent. They've been out in the open about it. Every major development in geopolitics, monetary policy, etc., since then has moved us a step closer to it. It's all as old as the hills.

Read Chapter XV (15) of The Road To Serfdom, written during WWII. It's discussed in depth, not as some mysterious "conspiracy theory," but as a matter of fact well understood by the world's financial elite, and everyone else who was well informed about the goals of the world's banking, technocratic, elite.

WWI was supposed to bring it about in its aftermath, but overwhelming popular disapproval in the United States put a stop to it, so The Great Depression and WWII were arranged, further increasing and centralizing government power in the US, the more easily to influence it through corruption towards the ultimate goal of despotic world government under the direction of the banks.

If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Lets get 0bama out this time and work on Romney, by getting someone better, next time. It is the only chance we have of making this country better. miles

That is one big conspiracy theory. Wow! miles

Conspiracy, yes. Theory, not so much, since they (the world's banking technocratic elite) actually publish about their accomplishment fairly openly. It's just that most folks don't read what they publish, and since they own the MSM, never hear it discussed in the evening news.

For example:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite, and of world bankers, is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991

And

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

David Rockefeller, Memoirs , 2002

Nope, you have it backwards.

If you vote, you're giving your personal imprimatur of approval to the democratic process, and proclaiming your implicit agreement with the resulting course of events. That's when you have no right to complain.

It's when you don't vote, as a demonstration of protest against the coercion and violence inherent in majority rule, that you qualify as a non-participant in the process and therefore have standing to judge it.

If you hung up a deer in your living room and butchered it, making a bloody, hairy mess of everything within reach, would you have any right to complain that your living room was such a disaster and smelly and unfit for company and probably pathological as well?

No, of course not. You made the mess: it's your responsibility to clean it up, not to complain about it.

It's your wife's responsibility to complain about it.

Why?

Because she didn't participate, that's why.

It's a reasonably simple concept.

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Just one more little analogical poke: she would be especially justified in complaining, I'm sure you'd agree, if she had repeatedly warned you that butchering a deer in the living room would make a mess and pleaded with you not to do it.

Well said.

This may not be a very important presidential election, but it's shaping up to be the most interesting in a long time.

Virtually nobody likes the candidates.

People on various forums that I participate in are always giving their opinions on who would be a good President without ever pausing to think that just maybe those people want no part of being President.

In fact, one has to wonder why *anyone* would want to be President at this point in the nation's history.

I'm certain that their motives have nothing to do with "fixing" anything,...so it comes down to ego and power.

I'm trying to stay as detached as possible from the whole circus, but it's too interesting.

The GOP convention in Tampa has the potential to be a big show,...especially if the cointelpro people show up,...and I'm guessing that they will.

Wrong, as usual. Doing nothing never accomplishes anything. If you are not willing to butcher the deer, don't complain about being hungry. Butcher the damn deer, clean up the mess and move on. Grow a pair. miles

quote=Bristoe]This may not be a very important presidential election, but it's shaping up to be the most interesting in a long time.

Virtually nobody likes the candidates.

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well, one thing we know is that...of those with the wit to find a polling place on primary day....about five times as many liked Romney as Paul. just sayin'

you fan boys can beat this dead horse as long as it blows up your skirt, but the rest of the country has, uh, moved on.

Their man did not get the nomination, so they just give up. That would be a good bunch to ride the river with, not. I do not want my future decided by a bunch of puzzies like that. miles

I'm not beating any dead horse.

I've removed myself from the process.

Well,...it's probably more correct to say that the process removed me from the process.

It removed all of us, actually.

Some see it,...some don't.

Well,...they're not going to do what you want them to. Some of them have unrealistic expectations,...but they're independently minded,...and they have very good reason to despise the GOP.

You mean folks acting like Ron Paul supporters causing trouble?

yeah

Yeah, Romney got the MSM zombie vote, for sure.

I have figured that out. What I want is 0bama gone. Seems more and more like the whole Ron Paul movement was set up to aid 0bama. Reminds me of Ross Perot aiding Bill Clinton gain the White House. Divide and conquer, and all that. miles