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I love Oklahoma, have many relatives there, spend a significant amount of time there and in fact, will be there tomorrow. Y'alls politics down there are superior to Kansas'. I don't agree with Fallin. All that said, I get tired of smelling somebody's cigarette when I go someplace. If I get our lawn chairs positioned at my son's ball game and then some scrounger comes up and fires up a cancer stick, I get to do it all over again in an inferior place, if I can even find one. Secondhand smoke has been linked to cancer, so it is not all just not wanting to smell some dude's rancid [bleep] he's sucking on.

Again, I disagree, but lots of smokers are pretty aggressive, thinking you want to inhale their carcinogens.

Like the title says. I'm beyond ticked at my governor, Republican Mary Fallin. A few months ago she issued an Executive Order banning the use of all tobacco products on state property, including in your vehicles parked on state property. We are not just talking about state employees, but ANYONE on ANY state property, including Wildlife Management Areas, lakes, parks, fairgrounds...everything!

I realize tobacco may be pretty important to a lot of folks, but how is voting to send a message on that smallish issue any different than a Paul voter who can't stomach Romney voting for a Libertarian or some such to send a message? To me the only difference is degree and the Paulista has a lot more to gripe about than the Okie Governor's stance on this one issue.

I'll be voting for Romney come November because I have to Cowboy up and do the best thing for our country and our freedoms.

I agree, but there are lots of so called orders I do not follow, for example: no tobacco use on these premises, no weapons in the courthouse, wear your seat belt, all bodies of water, are waters of the state [BULLSH-T] I dug the [bleep]' holes these waters are mine and they can FOAD if they think any different.

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I would take it through the courts.

This seems like an overstep of Power. Though, I admit that I know nothing about Oklahoma law.

Is this legal to make an executive order like this instead of going through the legislature to make it a law?

I mean, can she ban pants on all State Property?

Now I'm having a dilemma. I am 39 years old and have always been a registered Republican and voted as such. I have to be honest, at this time I am seriously considering voting democtatic in the next Oklahoma governor's race just to send a message! Again, who the heck does she think she is????

Are you pissed off because:

1) The Governor banned tobacco use on Gov't property via Executive order and not thru the legislature.

or

2) The Governor banned tobacco use on Gov't property.

I understand this, and I too will vote for Romney. However, therin lies the reason our country has shifted so far to the left over the last 40 years!

Liberals are in power and shift things way to the left. People are disgusted by this and when the next election comes they vote for the opposition. But the opposition isn't truly conservative, and doesn't bring everything fully back to the right. So when the next liberal is in power they are already starting at a place that is further left than the prior liberal started from. It's a downhill slide to the left over time. And we wonder why our country is in the shape it is in?

One reason there's such a backlash is that smokers make up over 25% of the population, and that doesn't count those who use smokeless. It's a big number and I'm willing to bet we're in the top 3 nationally in the number of smokers.

Seeing that it's State land and Gov't property, I imagine they can do whatever they want.

They can ban ATV's, ban hunting, ban fishing, ban camping, ban campfires on Gov't land on a whim if they wanted to. I don't see where this is any different.

This is an overreaction.

I don't like civil liberties being taken away. I look at places back east trying to bad soda pop and it pisses me off.

That being said, I feel that this is an overreaction on your part. I have no problem banning the use of tobacco products on state property. Cigarette smoke SUCKS and I hate being subjected to it. If you want to kill yourself then fine, puff away but I shouldn't have to breathe in second hand smoke on my property or community property. Instead of just banning cigarettes it was probably easier to ban all tobacco products.

I was at the lake behind my house this past weekend and had my 10 week old daughter with me when a guy smoking a cigarette walks away from his family and up to where we were standing and just stood there puffing away. Unf&:)ingbelievable! I told him he needed to bounce that my 10 week old didn't need to inhale his smoke. It was rude and I wish they would do the same thing where I live

Cigarettes also cause fires and it's drier than a popcorn fart all across the country. One cigarette butt could cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in firefighting and property loss. You want to smoke then do it in your own home

I don't mean to be nit-picky, but I don't think smokers come near being 25% of the population, either country-wide or state-wide in Oklahoma.

This is an overreaction.

I don't like civil liberties being taken away. I look at places back east trying to bad soda pop and it pisses me off.

That being said, I feel that this is an overreaction on your part. I have no problem banning the use of tobacco products on state property. Cigarette smoke SUCKS and I hate being subjected to it. If you want to kill yourself then fine, puff away but I shouldn't have to breathe in second hand smoke on my property or community property. Instead of just banning cigarettes it was probably easier to ban all tobacco products.

I was at the lake behind my house this past weekend and had my 10 week old daughter with me when a guy smoking a cigarette walks away from his family and up to where we were standing and just stood there puffing away. Unf&:)ingbelievable! I told him he needed to bounce that my 10 week old didn't need to inhale his smoke. It was rude and I wish they would do the same thing where I live

Cigarettes also cause fires and it's drier than a popcorn fart all across the country. One cigarette butt could cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in firefighting and property loss. You want to smoke then do it in your own home

One reason there's such a backlash is that smokers make up over 25% of the population, and that doesn't count those who use smokeless. It's a big number and I'm willing to bet we're in the top 3 nationally in the number of smokers.

Seeing that it's State land and Gov't property, I imagine they can do whatever they want.

They can ban ATV's, ban hunting, ban fishing, ban camping, ban campfires on Gov't land on a whim if they wanted to. I don't see where this is any different.

I don't mean to be nit-picky, but I don't think smokers come near being 25% of the population, either country-wide or state-wide in Oklahoma.