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ONLY? that is plenty enough reason to give up on them.

My Magnus COC heads open 100 per cent of the time

My Razor Tricks never close!

Zwickey Deltas and Rothaar Snuffers never have failed to open for me.

And lately the muzzy clone thats all the rage, I forget what they are, have worked really well for me.

Mechanicals SUCK. Maybe thats been said before... grins...

I love my Magnus Stingers. I sharpen those things up to a scary edge with full confidence that they will do what they are supposed to.

wow the title of this thread was VERY misleading

The problem is with the arrows they shoot. Eveyone is so hung up on speed they forget the thing that does the killing is the arrow weight and broadhead.

My 20 yr old hoyt magnatec will shoot a 480gr arrow at 270fps from one end of a deer to the other WITH AN EXPANDABLE broadhead. I pull 80pounds and I have killed more than a few whitetails where the Eastman First Strike broadhead cuts the front edge of the hind quarter and breaks the opposite front shoulder.

Out to 30yds there is no deer alive that should stop a proper arrow from going thru on a broadside shot. I have put the same arrow thru both shoulder blades at 25yds and deer and they die in seconds.

The greatest bowhunter alive today, Chuck Adams, says you should use at least a 400gr arrow for deer, and 500grs is better yet. I've always tried to hunt by those guidelines and had no issues. The idiots/experts on TV might want to start living by Chuck's guidlines too.

I'm with DMSBandit on this. I have shot 435gr arrows, two blade Rage, 286fps at 79lbs with Hoyt Ultratec and always complete pass through. Most taken from 20-40 yards. So many shooters are caught up with speed but cannot pull enough lbs to get a heavy arrow going to their "desired" speed. More weight going a little slower will achieve more energy.
This spring bought a Carbon Matrix, shooting same arrow 310fps at same lbs. Looking forward to many more pass throughs this fall.

that something i find helps,moving up to a 125grn broadhead instead of a 100grn . i'm shooting a crossbow these days and heavier broadhead flys way better. 3 blade muzzy works for me.

Tape and skip through everything without an animal it it.
Watching a show takes about 10 minutes max!


stumpy

you are right about that. nothing but advertising for stupid products.

stumpy I can't even take 10 minutes of that nonsense.

With all that heavy breathing and fist pumping after the shot, you would think these guys are having sex, or something. Stan Potts makes a jackass out of himself every time he shoots one.

Video Cameron Hanes on a DIY Public land elk or blacktail hunt and I will watch it. Till then no thanks I rather waste my time here on the fire.

I thinks it has a lot to do with the total arrow weight mostly. I drove a 2 bladed rage tipped Carbon express pile driver threw a does shoulder and ended up with a complete pass threw of the arrow. My Guardian is set at 70 pounds and 28 inch draw and my arrows are about 485 grains speed no sure never chronographed the bow. I believe in momentum not speed. This combo is like hitting a deer with a sledgehammer instead of a ballpein hammer.

Andrew

Old television just died. Will shoot it this weekend and see what kind of penetration I get. Do follow the heavier arrow thought process so expect a pass through.

I know several of the biggest names shoot about 50lb draws that are rather short and use rage heads and light arrows to get a flatter trajectory. All of it adds up to poor penetration. They will tell you it is better to leave the arrow in the deer to tear things up as they run, though. I guess you can justify it if you have to.

There isn't one show worth watching. DIY on public land is the rage now and I still think the shows are rigged.

I think these boys are shooting too far. They are in a time crunch and take bad shots be it too far, poor angle, alerted animal whatever. One of the few that I've seen get solid pass throughs is Nugent. He has a whole other world of issues though. I've only had one that didn't pass through and that was because I pulled the shot and hit solid shoulder on the off side. Still killed it but the arrow stayed in. I've been shooting recurve for the past fifteen years exclusively and have taken several head of WT. Nary a one has held the arrow. I run 65#'s at my draw length and I shoot heavy woods and heavy WF carbons. I don't shoot much past 25 yards either which is key. If you want to shoot past that wait til gun season.

Ditto, they take long and piss poor shots. All for the camera. Beats watching reality TV crap that my wife watches though