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I'm thinking about the VX-6, 1-6x24 #4, Fire Dot with CDS for my 9.3x62. I'm not crazy about 30mm tubes but the weight is OK. With the #4 reticle at 1 power, fast shooting at hogs, etc. should be easy. With the thinner, center part of the reticle at 6 power with the CDS, 500 yd. shots with 250 gr. NAB's shouldn't be that hard.
With the 24mm objective, I wouldn't think one could use much more than 3 power at twilight while maintaining an 8mm exit pupil.
Seem this scope with it's quality glass would be a good compromise for this gun and round. At $899 it's not cheap, but it may be worth the cost.
Would appreciate input.
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I'd concur with your assessment regarding use of the reticles. However, I have never been a fan of Leupold's German #4. IMHO, the lower portion is too much. I'd prefer the lower portion to be on the order of the wide-duplex.
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They have a post and duplex reticle that's not as extreme, but I don't see it offered with this scope.
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With the 24mm objective, I wouldn't think one could use much more than 3 power at twilight while maintaining an 8mm exit pupil. Are you a cat?
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I guess that depends on who you ask... DF
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They have a post and duplex reticle that's not as extreme, but I don't see it offered with this scope.
DF Agree. Post & Duplex is a much better reticle (IMO). But as you say, it's not offered as an option.
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Just returned from my vacation, and waiting for me was my VX-6 1-6x24mm Illum. German #4 that I sent back a few weeks ago (canted reticle).
The VX-6 version of the German #4 is NOT the same as Leupolds previous generations. To my eye, it is much closer to their Post & Duplex reticle.
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Thanks, FOst for that info.
With your recent problem, I wonder about their QA.
What's your assessment of the scope, now that you've gotten it back? Would you buy it again, or something else?
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Just returned from my vacation, and waiting for me was my VX-6 1-6x24mm Illum. German #4 that I sent back a few weeks ago (canted reticle).
The VX-6 version of the German #4 is NOT the same as Leupolds previous generations. To my eye, it is much closer to their Post & Duplex reticle. I'd hoped that was the case. I really like the #4 in the Z6 Swarovski and never liked Leupold's #4. If what you say is right, I'll be looking for 2 of the 2-12x and a 3-18x.
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I have a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT that came with a target type duplex that was way too fine for hunting. I sent it and $125 to Swaro for a #4. It's not that heavy, but beats the heck out of what it came with.
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Before purchasing the VX-6 1-6x24mm Illum. German #4, I did a Internet search and found this picture of the reticle that I saved to my PC. DF, It's too early for me to make a determination. I haven't had the scope in hand for long, and need to mount it and spend some time behind it.
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That does look a lot more like a post and duplex than the classic German #4. That drives me crazy. Leupold puts out drawings showing one reticle, but the scope has an entirely different reticle. It's not too unlike Obammy's health care bill. You gotta pass it to see what's in it. You gotta buy the scope to see what reticle you're actually getting. One would think their ad dept/PR gurus could get their stuff together... DF
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An 8mm exit pupil at the last of legal shooting hours will give you a brighter looking image, but that scope should work to about 5X even on a dark day during legal shooting hours. At 5X, you'll be able to see further when the light gets bad than setting it at 3X. E
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Thanks, E. I believe it. And which of us, as we age, have full bore, dilated low light 8mm pupils, anyway? Maybe when we were 20... So, we wouldn't know the difference at 4 or 5 power and with the extra magnification, we can for sure see better than at 3 power. DF
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I'm thinking about the VX-6, 1-6x24 #4, Fire Dot with CDS for my 9.3x62. I'm not crazy about 30mm tubes but the weight is OK. With the #4 reticle at 1 power, fast shooting at hogs, etc. should be easy. With the thinner, center part of the reticle at 6 power with the CDS, 500 yd. shots with 250 gr. NAB's shouldn't be that hard.
With the 24mm objective, I wouldn't think one could use much more than 3 power at twilight while maintaining an 8mm exit pupil.
Seem this scope with it's quality glass would be a good compromise for this gun and round. At $899 it's not cheap, but it may be worth the cost.
Would appreciate input.
DF You would be much better off with larger objective lens and 1" tube.
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Before purchasing the VX-6 1-6x24mm Illum. German #4, I did a Internet search and found this picture of the reticle that I saved to my PC. DF, It's too early for me to make a determination. I haven't had the scope in hand for long, and need to mount it and spend some time behind it. That picture looks quite a bit like the Swaro 4I reticle. I think I could go for that. It looks a lot better than the Leupold no. 4's I've seen in the past.
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Before purchasing the VX-6 1-6x24mm Illum. German #4, I did a Internet search and found this picture of the reticle that I saved to my PC. DF, It's too early for me to make a determination. I haven't had the scope in hand for long, and need to mount it and spend some time behind it. That picture looks quite a bit like the Swaro 4I reticle. I think I could go for that. It looks a lot better than the Leupold no. 4's I've seen in the past. To me, that looks like a post and duplex, not a German #4. But, I've found Leupold's classifications of these reticles quite confusing. I'm going to order this scope today. I'll report when I get it. DF
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You would be much better off with larger objective lens and 1" tube. I guess it depends on the application. Generally, I like 1" tubes and objectives larger than 24mm. For my 9.3x62, this one seems to be a good match. If I don't like it, I'll trade it or sell it. DF
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I have a S & B 1.5-6x42 with a modified #4 FFP reticle. I really like t for low light work. Ths reticle s like a Duplex #4 with hash marks for windage.
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Are the VX6's with illumination FFP or SFP? Anybody know? Thanks
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