Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The Real Issue of 2012

Well I guess we need to impeach Thomas Jefferson:

Jane Randolph Jefferson, n�e Jane Randolph (1721�1776,) was the wife of Peter Jefferson and the mother of president Thomas Jefferson. Born February 9, 1721 in Shadwell Parish, Tower Hamlets, London, she was the daughter of Isham Randolph and Jane Rogers, and a cousin of Peyton Randolph.[1

Yep, I did. In fact, I didn't watch the whole clip. To me it looked like a guy willing to do anything to make youtube.

R

No, I wouldn't ask anyone to hand me a gun. Hands kill, we all know that. As to the second, it depends.

For instance, we routinely run into guys (and girls) with rifles in pickups during hunting season. The vast majority of LEOs I know leave them alone. The individual that states "just so you know, I have a CCW and I'm armed" gets similar treatment, just as I learned from experienced cops when I was a "baby".

It would likely shock you (being from CA) how many folks I deal with that are carrying open. It's not something to get worked up about.

My mantra "treat everyone like a million bucks and have a plan to kill them all" works.

Geoge

no it doesn't. the constitution unfortunately does not state what a 'natural born citizen' is and the law has deferred to 'citizen by birth' this has a variety of clauses but main are

As of 2011[update], United States Federal law (8 U.S.C. � 1401) defines who is a United States citizen from birth. According to that law, the following acquire citizenship at birth:
"a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

Well I guess we need to impeach Thomas Jefferson:

Jane Randolph Jefferson, n�e Jane Randolph (1721�1776,) was the wife of Peter Jefferson and the mother of president Thomas Jefferson. Born February 9, 1721 in Shadwell Parish, Tower Hamlets, London, she was the daughter of Isham Randolph and Jane Rogers, and a cousin of Peyton Randolph.[1

That rule is about as absurd as the 18th Amendment anyway. Let me ask some of you "purists" this question; A man who came here at the age of six, went to school here, served thirty years in the Armed Forces, decorated, held the highest security clearances, life member of the NRA likes baseball, drives Chevys, has a gorgeous babe for a wife, you know "one of the guys", etc. Would you prefer him over the current Marxist in office...?

Public policy is enacted by essentially two methods: radical comprehensive or incrementally. The former is a draconian shift in policy, such as an outright confiscation of guns. In the latter, gun confiscation is accomplished one little law at a time.

Socialism in American has been and continues to be implemented incrementally. Socialism is the necessary precursor to communism. There are three essential obstacles that must be overcome in order to implement socialism: elimination of private property rights, dissolving the family unit, and ridding America of Marx�s opiate of the masses: religion.

Without religion, the other two are easy to implement. John Locke indentified the right of private property as a natural right. Natural rights flow to us from God. Government has no power to strip anyone of any natural right, for they were given to us by God. Therefore, before we can become a totally socialist state in which we�re completely controlled by government, God has got to go.

Revisionists� propagate the lie that our Founding Fathers created a secular nation. This is an outright lie. Anyone can access primary source documents facilitating knowledge that our Founding Fathers created a Christian nation. Some of our Founding Fathers had gone so far as to predict the demise of their patrimony were our nation to be governed by other than believers in God. And it is the benevolence of Christians that allows others to practice any legitimate religion.

Here�s my point: since at least the 1940�s �even earlier- a forceful subculture within our country has strove to dupe gullible Americans that the First Amendment justifies governmental regulation of religious practices, a fear Jefferson said could never happen in America. His intent of separation of church and state was that religion must be protected from governmental regulation, not vice versa as revisionists� want us to believe. Madison believed that our country was created by the divine hand of God.

Regardless of who�s in power, Republicans or Democrats, we have and are becoming more socialistic. Socialism implicates a lack of freedom. Communism -dictatorial control- follows socialism.

We own nothing that the government does not allow us to own. Therefore, what we own is approved and regulated by the government and that includes our homes.

Think very carefully before this election; however, it might not matter. We might be too far gone for a reversal of years of incremental public policy changes that have facilitated socialism to take root and spawn.

We know Obama is at least a socialist. I think he�s a communist. That leaves the putative Republican nominee. If you believe Romney will restore freedom, yank a lever for him. However, I do not see it. In fact, Republicans have done nothing to impede socialism.

Don�t fall into the trap of a false dichotomy: Obama or Romney. Keep restoration of freedom at the forefront. Who or what is the best path to lead us back to the intent of our Founding Fathers?

New York and California are lost causes. In California, Republicans are greatly outnumbered, and many of the Republicans who reside here are neocons. Neocons will steal our freedoms just as surely as will Obama. In fact, Leo Strauss was as dangerous to freedom as was Marx. Obama will win New York and California�s electoral votes without having to campaign in either state.

If Obama does win, do not blame his victory on the �Paulbots� or other derisive and pejorative names Romney supporters choose to call those of us who want to eliminate socialism and restore freedom. For if Obama wins, it�ll be the result of intransient Romney supporters who are falling prey to the mainstream media created false dichotomy.

We are living in an unprecedented era. None of the medicine given to our ailing and possibly fatally diseased economy is working. Baby boomers and their consumerism led to a tremendous post-WWII economic boom. We do not have such demand. In fact, consumers aren�t consuming for fear of their jobs and because they were burned by consumer credit, not to mention tremendous hits they have taken to their home equity. So it could be that regardless of who�s elected, it won�t much matter. Our economy, which determines governmental action, might not survive.

Finally, don�t forget that under Bush 43, our country lost at least 6 million manufacturing jobs, which paid good salaries that accorded workers ability to live the American dream, and we closed at least 40,000 American factories, most of which reopened in China. And his Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson, threatened us with martial law if congress didn�t pass TARP, which was really a bailout of Bush�s homeboys using taxpayers� money. Don�t think for a New York second that Bush didn�t put Paulson up to threaten us with martial law.

As I see it, if it remains between Obama and Romney, I couldn�t care less who wins. You see, I know that either way we�re going to become more enslaved.

No government is viable unless it can control its people. In our country, politicians use laws to control us. When was the last time anyone has heard of a neocon proposing eliminating any law???


R

Calhoun,

Do you believe that many Republicans do not believe that socialized medicine is necessary?

Don't forget that many Republicans were initially for Obamacare. I heard Republicans say that our health care system was broken, precursor to socialized medicine. It ain't our health care system that's broken. It's stealing from taxpayers to fund it that is.

Unless and until something is done to eliminate the unfunded mandates of Medicare and prescription drug benefits totaling nearly 100 trillion dollars, which is completely unsustainable, politicians on both sides of the aisle will do everything possible to keep a sinking ship afloat.


Take care,

R