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For the woods I always favored the .358 Win in a Featherweight. They weigh less than the .257R's that they made then. The larger round just suits that hunting in my view. Then when the ranges get longer the little .257R does not have the stuff like the larger rounds do. To each his own on this however. The 99F in the picture is a .358. Thats why I don't own or want a .257R. Too weak and heavy for the woods and too weak for the open.
All guns should be locked up when not in use!
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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You mean Eileen and I have to resuscitate all the antelope and deer we've shot with various .257's at 300-400 yards?
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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When I ordered a new Ford convertible in 1969 I had a choice of a 6 or an 8. I got the 429 with air.
All guns should be locked up when not in use!
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You mean Eileen and I have to resuscitate all the antelope and deer we've shot with various .257's at 300-400 yards? Yeah..., and funny how it wasn't "too heavy" for a woman. For some men (strictly speaking gender here) there seems to be a need for bigger bores, and as seen, bigger engines... could be a 'compensation' issue I guess... A girlfriend, when choosing her rifle, chose a 257 Roberts. She was able to bear the weight of that gun just fine, perhaps because she was a strapping 5'2" and 118lbs. It wasn't too weak of a cartridge in her hands, but then again she was shooting those screaming 117 grain factory loads.
"I'd rather have an Army of Asses led by a Lion, than an Army of Lions led by an Ass." (George Washington)
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When I ordered a new Ford convertible in 1969 I had a choice of a 6 or an 8. I got the 429 with air. Guessing you're still running an 8 track also. You've never figured out that [bleep] changes, but that's what makes you a complete frigging idiot.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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257 Roberts fans? They are legion. And rightfully so. It is a great little cartridge.
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For the woods I always favored the .358 Win in a Featherweight. They weigh less than the .257R's that they made then. The larger round just suits that hunting in my view. Then when the ranges get longer the little .257R does not have the stuff like the larger rounds do. To each his own on this however. The 99F in the picture is a .358. Thats why I don't own or want a .257R. Too weak and heavy for the woods and too weak for the open. Now that is some funny stuff right there. "Too weak and heavy for the woods" I feel like I am standing at the gun counter at Sportsman's Warehouse or something.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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It's rather ironic that I chose THAT post to read when wondering whether you really oughta be on ignore !
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Or trying to adopt a kid born from a brother/sister relationship.
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Geez Don, do you always have to be Mr. Negative, Mr. Half-Full, Mr. Rain On The Parade? I know that hunting deer in VT is the very definition of frustration and can turn a person bitter, but do you have to drag all of your negative baggage with you to the campfire? If you never actually shoot an animal, the rifle/cartridge combination is pretty meaningless, regardless of bore size, don't you think?
Jeff
PS - If your Savage 99 is an "F", it appears to have a mis-matched "DL/M" stock on it.
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You can't see me, Jeff, but I am standing to clap. Nice post.
"The number one problem with America is, a whole lot of people need shot, and nobody is shooting them." -Master Chief Hershel Davis
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Yes, we can see you. and pull your pants up and get that thing looked at...it ain't right.
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Bahahahahaha!! Never mind that knot, I am hoping to get that burned off soon.
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In a way the 257 Roberts is an ok round just like a hundred others. It's just that it's about dead.
It never caught on being a little too big as a varmint round and a little too small as a game round. It was designed by a famous and very good Schuetzen rifeman however.
The rifles the 257r. were chambered in back then were too big and heavy for game hunting with 26" barrels yet the round is light in a way and not really powerful enough. Most of us can shoot better guns.
The market has spoken and the little 257r. is dead.
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The "market" is mostly about those of little knowledge and great opinion standing in line at Wally world the week before season opens to get junior his new wizbang deer rifle. Has little to do with deciding a cartridges worth for hunting.
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The market has spoken and the little 257r. is dead. But your 358 Win. is just burning up the sales charts, right?
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The market has spoken and the little 257r. is dead. But your 358 Win. is just burning up the sales charts, right? Too-Shay.........
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