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Okay boys and girls, it's time to upgrade and protect a good chef knife and possibly a good carving knife. What do you use and prefer? I've been using Chicago Cutlery for many years, but I know they aren't the best out there, though I can bring them to a razor edge quickly. My wife just had a Pampered Chef show - how are their expensive chef knives? Or should I be looking elsewhere - recommend away! I know how to care for them and sharpen them to a razor's edge, but I have to protect them from the wife and kids from damaging the edges - they can have the Chicago Cutlery. I've got about a $100-150 budget for a good chef's knife. I grab my 7" Chicago Cutlery Chef's knifefor all chopping/dicing/mincing needs, but have never tried a Santoku style blade either, so I'm up for recommendations on that end as well. I also have a 12" Chicago Cutlery Chef's knife, but that doesn't get used as often as the 7", as it's a little unwieldy for many tasks. Thanks!


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my latest kitchen prep knive, by our own MRK
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge

I wish! A little out of my price range at this point. Sweet looking knives - I'd love that culinary set!


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I find that knives need to be fitted to the chef like a gun to a shooter. Smaller hands=smaller blades/handles. I have huge hands and need a big handle to keep me from getting fatigued too quickly. Go to a cutlery store and try a bunch and get the one that fits. "Sets" are not the best choice as one of the set may really fit and the others not so much.


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Lots of good information here selmer if you feel like sifting through it.

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so far as factory made knives are concerned, I like the carbon steel K Sabatier brand from France. I'll take these any day over the various Stainless Steel German blades.
Their outlet store in South Carolina is a hoot to shop in, and great to deal with on the phone as well.
http://ksabatieroutlet.com/


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Hi Selmer,

A Japanese chef knife is called a gyuto.

Great value high performance cutter here:
http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/KAGAYAKICarboNextSeries.html

Koki is an outstanding vendor... only $6 bucks shipping from Japan and you will get in three business days.

Scroll down to the 210mm or 240mm - don't be afraid of the added length over your Chicago Cutlery - it will be thinner, lighter, and far more nimble than what you are used to. If you plan on any carving at all I would go with a 240.

A santoku tends to be a compromise. One that will hamstring you on certain cutting motions.

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Laugh if you want but...

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Santoku

They work and are of good quality


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
my latest kitchen prep knive, by our own MRK
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I liked the look of your knife Sam and ordered one for myself. It is a fine knife and I have used it to butcher bear, deer and a slew of vegetables. MRK is a fine man who exhibits characteristics not often seen in businessmen today. Exceptional quality, easy to sharpen and an incredible edge holder.
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I've used my set of 4-Star Zwilling J.A. Henckels for almost 30 years and wouldn't want any other knives. Get the model with the polypropylene (no studs) handle which is absolutely "comfortable".

My favorite and most used Henckels is my 200mm (8-inch) chef's knife. It is perfectly balanced which means it does a wonderful job of any kind of cutting or slicing.

In my opinion, there is no better choice for "THE" top quality knifes than the 4-Star Henckels knives.

There's none better, but... unfortunately, they aren't "cheap". But on the other hand, they'll last a life-time! smile

Here's a link to their web-site:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/shop/cutlery/zwilling-henckels-knives/

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A lot of this is just repeating what everyone else said, but here it is anyway.

Knives are a lot like rifles. You can spend as much or as little as you want and still shoot a deer (or slice a tomato).

If you want a no frills working knife, it's tough to beat any of the Forschner Fibrox knives, especially for $30.

The German standards, Henckels and Wusthofs are generally well worth the money, and should last a lifetime, but I've found the thicker blades aren't what I prefer any more. Make sure you get the forged blades made in Germany. They both outsource a lot of their knives now.

The French Sabatiers are incredibly elegant and the carbon steel can be made "spooky" sharp. The blade will patina with use, which I think is pretty cool. It is also a pretty thin blade, with a shape I prefer more and more.

The Japanese gyutos are being found in more and more pro kitchens. The carbon steel blades are even thinner than the Sabatiers and they are incredibly hard. Despite the hardness, they can be brought to incredible levels of sharpness. This creates some issues though. Due to the hard, thin blade, they are not for chopping through chicken bones or frozen foods. If that's something you do often, the German knives are for you.

You can really get a lot done in the kitchen with a chefs knife, pairing knife, and cleaver.



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Otto's spot on IMO. After using Henkels Twin Professional S, Wusthof Classic, Messermeister Meridian Elite, and a few others, the thinner non-heavy bolstered knives have become favorites. IMO the Forschner/Victorinox Fibrox knives are an absolute bargain. I tend to use them for functions where people may use them and not take great care with them and buy them for specialty knives such as Cimeter and butcher knives.

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Go with 4 or 5 Star Henckels. Not cheap, but not terribly expensive either. They will make you wish you had thrown out your mothers Chicago Cutlery and assorted other Supermarket giveaway knives many years ago.


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I've been happy with my Wusthofs set for the last 10 years or so...



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You guys kill me with your high dollar knives...I can buy them at wholesale....have used several of the brands you mention...but for the money you can't beat the knives I posted above.

FWIW you are paying 2x+ for the cost of your knives wink


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Originally Posted by eh76
You guys kill me with your high dollar knives...I can buy them at wholesale....have used several of the brands you mention...but for the money you can't beat the knives I posted above.

FWIW you are paying 2x+ for the cost of your knives wink


you make a lot of assumptions that the ppl here are paying full retail and that you are the only one that can get them for a lot less...


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No I'm not making assumptions, as most are paying full retail or near that. You are making one huge assumption yourself wink laugh

I was simply making a point that cost has little to do with quality and value of knives a lot at times. Most "name" brand brands are vastly overpriced and quality is not what it was when they built their "name". My point was I am able to buy the over valued "name" brand knives at a much lower price than most BUT I have found a very good quality knife for the dollar and thought I would pass that info along...nothing more...nothing less...you can un-puff now


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