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Thanks for the info. I really like that barrel weight!
My only nit to pick is the barrel, to my eyes, is too long for the little MT forearm. To me, it's borderline with a 22" barrel.
But everyone's different...
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Thanks for the info. I really like that barrel weight!
My only nit to pick is the barrel, to my eyes, is too long for the little MT forearm. To me, it's borderline with a 22" barrel.
But everyone's different... Beings I've never owned one, would it be possible to measure the length of the forarm and see what barrel length meets the 3/5s rule? IIRC that is the ratio Stephen Dobbs recommends as the forearm to barrel ratio to be be most appealing (past issue of Sports Afield).
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Nice! It will certainly take a new barrel to improve my 7/08 MT. That Kimber still kicking your ass? Yep. I have a 50yo 870 police that has had the choke cut off (18in) with ghost ring sights that shoots Rem low-recoil slugs into tighter groups than the Kimber, with a 2.5-8 Leupy. No schit. My world-class gunsmith buddy said he'd never seen or even heard of a rifle that inaccurate.
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Beings I've never owned one, would it be possible to measure the length of the forarm and see what barrel length meets the 3/5s rule? IIRC that is the ratio Stephen Dobbs recommends as the forearm to barrel ratio to be be most appealing (past issue of Sports Afield). Where is the forearm measured from? Recoil lug?
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I am unable to put my hands on the article right now, but my guess since it is being compared to the barrel length that the recoil lug would be as good a place as any.
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FYI.
I called IT&D to ask pricing. To recontour a target to a Doug #4 is $45 for the recontour, $20 to recrown, and $13 return shipping. $78 bucks all up with a 7-14 day turn around. Seems mighty reasonably priced. The gentleman, whose name I cannot remember from 4 minutes ago, was knowledgable, eager to answer my questions, and genrally a real pleasure to speak with.
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It was probably Dave you spoke with.
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Was a # 4 as small as they would recountour? Don't mean to thread jack.
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Sell it before "The Gay" gets its claws in too deep. Or paint it rainbow leporard and "Do You" boo boo.
All jokes aside she looks like a killing machine.
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What advantages do you foresee over a plain Montana 243?
Does it now balance neutral or muzzle heavy?
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Nice! It will certainly take a new barrel to improve my 7/08 MT. That Kimber still kicking your ass? Yep. I have a 50yo 870 police that has had the choke cut off (18in) with ghost ring sights that shoots Rem low-recoil slugs into tighter groups than the Kimber, with a 2.5-8 Leupy. No schit. My world-class gunsmith buddy said he'd never seen or even heard of a rifle that inaccurate. I HAD a Montana 7mm-08 that sounds a lot like yours. I'm a big Kimber Montana fan (currently own three), but you couldn't keep three rounds inside a pie-plate at 100 yards with that rifle. I ended up sending it back to Kimber and they test fired it with the same results, so offered to re-barrel to .243, .257, .308, or .338 Federal, but I wasn't interested in any of those, so convinced them to send me a .223. I was more than impressed with their customer service department and they didn't care that I bought the rifle secondhand. If yours is giving you fits, I'd send it back to them and see what they say. Really, what have you got to lose at this point?
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Was a # 4 as small as they would recountour? Don't mean to thread jack. They can do whatever you'd like. The barrel on mine is around a No. 2 or so contour. What advantages do you foresee over a plain Montana 243?
Does it now balance neutral or muzzle heavy? Main advantage is mag box room with the long 6mm bullets. That and burning less powder. And of course I'm a huge fan of the 250 case, which the 6xc is based on. With this scope, it's pretty close to neutral. Run something like a 3.5-10x40 Leupold on it, and my guess is it would be slightly muzzle heavy, but that's not a bad thing in my book.
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I got to meet Dave (IT&D) twice now. Once this past May to drop off my barreled action, and once in July to pick it up again. His shop/house is about an hour from where I work. Really nice guy, very reasonable prices and work done right. He told me up front it would be 2 months because his metal refinishing guy was recovering from a heart attack. He had nice things to say for guys from the Campfire here.
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Nice! It will certainly take a new barrel to improve my 7/08 MT. That Kimber still kicking your ass? Yep. I have a 50yo 870 police that has had the choke cut off (18in) with ghost ring sights that shoots Rem low-recoil slugs into tighter groups than the Kimber, with a 2.5-8 Leupy. No schit. My world-class gunsmith buddy said he'd never seen or even heard of a rifle that inaccurate. Why not just buy clark98ut's old barrel? Cheap fix.
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What advantages do you foresee over a plain Montana 243?
Does it now balance neutral or muzzle heavy? Plus he twisted it faster for longer bullet options.....
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Nice rig clark98nut.
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Nice! It will certainly take a new barrel to improve my 7/08 MT. That Kimber still kicking your ass? Yep. I have a 50yo 870 police that has had the choke cut off (18in) with ghost ring sights that shoots Rem low-recoil slugs into tighter groups than the Kimber, with a 2.5-8 Leupy. No schit. My world-class gunsmith buddy said he'd never seen or even heard of a rifle that inaccurate. Why not just buy clark98ut's old barrel? Cheap fix. Because he'd have nothing to complain about. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Beings I've never owned one, would it be possible to measure the length of the forarm and see what barrel length meets the 3/5s rule? IIRC that is the ratio Stephen Dobbs recommends as the forearm to barrel ratio to be be most appealing (past issue of Sports Afield). Where is the forearm measured from? Recoil lug? Edge of receiver ring to muzzle divided by 2, subtract 1".
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Nice! It will certainly take a new barrel to improve my 7/08 MT. Why not just buy clark98ut's old barrel? Cheap fix. Because he'd have nothing to complain about. Travis True story!
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Dan, that's a super setup. Congrats!
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