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Nice shooting, probably one out of a thousand could pull it off. But you need to review the original post. The fellow states that his comfort zone is between 450-750, I'm judging similiar to yours. Cross canyon was 1200 yds, so a 7mm would have lost steam long before arriving there.

The OP also said he doesn't want to shoot past 800, so why worry about 1200?

Calibers are up in the air. It just needs to have big knock down power out to my comfort zone of 800 yards and the capability to kill passed that if a perfect shot presents itself. [/quote

300 magnum would be a better choice in my opinion, although I wasn't even talking magnums in my post. 7mm magnum doesn't fit the bill for big knock down power at 800 yd and a lot less further. It would be a better long range unit on sheep or coyotes at those distances not large bears. I've seen to many wounded bears in my day to support this round or lesser.

What is knockdown power?

Don't holes in flesh and arteries kill animals?

No. Knockdown power does. Silly freshman.

Guess I better stay all 4 years!

Good plan. First year has a lot of knockdown power, but it gets easier after that

Hopefully more penetration and less knockdown power...? Probably too far.

FPE os the only thing that matters in killing critters.

Like I said in previous post, I'm not a scientist but if you check the ballistic charts you would see that a 168 SMK fired from a 7mm magnum at 2950 ft/sec will have only 982 ft/lbs energy left at 800 yds. Some pistols have more energy than that. Would you shoot a large bear with a small caliber pistol? This is probably why the USA military never adopted this round in sniper circles. I mean they must know something about knockdown power and the energy required to pierce body armor. Of course I can see some idiotic comments coming like "Dude -Bears don't wear body armor" Please leave the stupid comments out of a serious discussion, have a good day.

Talk about a bunch of stupid comments in one post...

You have a guy here who is well known for long range kills. He has photographic evidence of long range kills with this "sub par" round. You admit to not finding a bear you with with your death ray...

As for the military using the 7rm, you're right they don't. But they do use a 300 WM, which is ballistically duplicating the 7RM. So that stupid comment is moot.

It's obvious that some postol rounds do have that much FPE at the muzzle. But you certainly wouldn't want to stretch that round too far, right?

As for FPE killing, how's this for FPE? This proves shot placement, holes in vitals are what kill. Energy is just a reference point, not a concrete guideline.

Nice. No attack on the shooter with the grin but he can't take pictures of the animals that crawled away or run off wounded, now can he?

Go ahead ask him and his hunting pards how many do that.

Your completely missing the point. Its not about drop in inches, it's nots not about knockdown power or enregy, it's not about feet per second. IT'S ALL ABOUT SHOT PLACEMENT AND RENDERING ORGANS UNABLE TO SUSTAIN LIFE! Know your rifle, know your load and know the environmental affects of the round, but a hole in the heart and/lot lungs and eat a steak...

Your completely missing the point. The only straight shot to the heart without hitting muscle or very massive bone structure is in the ass, and even there is a lot of [bleep] and guts to go through.

Front leg forward, heart and lungs are easily accessible.



Even on elk, too...

Hitting a 5 inch heart at 800 yds or more, Hmmmmm??????


Nice pictures.

Lungs are much larger. And just as deadly. In case you didn't know.

I make it a point to never hunt animals that wear body armor.

I knew I was setting myself up for that. LOL