Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors Here's a .300 Savag you don't see everyday

It sold for for $978. I don't know enough about these to say it is original but it is quite interesting and appealing:

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/56/lid/1740

Supposedly Remington chambered a few M30s in .250-3000 but
none have ever surfaced.

Never seen or heard of a Model 30 in .300 Savage or .250-3000. Have seen the "military model" 1934 in 7x57 (it looked like it had been stored at the bottom of a Honduran swamp!).

Remington has chambered various models in .300 Sav after the 30, so I suppose it's possible that it's factory. The receivers for 30s got used up and Remington moved on to cheaper-to-manufacture (and lighter) bolt rifles, some in .300 (722).

I've often wondered if Remington had to pay the Brits for continuing to produce their rifle commercially after the war. And some people on this board think a 99R is heavy. Believe its most likely legitimate as I vaguely almost remember something about M30 chamberings. And besides, even the M70 was chambered in .300 Savage so why not the M30?

I have done a little research on the model 30's over the years and never heard of a 300 Savage model 30. The ones I have seen were caliber marked on the reciever not the barrel. But let me repeat, this is such an odd gun I have only seen a couple dozens over the years, so I am definately not the person to bet any money on. edit, what I meant to say was, the caliber markings on the guns I have seen are next to the reciever on the left side very near the shoulder of the reciever. A little research after my first post, acording to the imfo I have found, the 300 Savage was NOT chambered from the factory in this rifle. Hope to hear from others with more knowledge than I have.

My understanding is that the 30 and 30S were chambered in .30-06, .257 Roberts, .35 Remington, and .25 Remington (rare). 30R (carbine) in .30-06 only as far as I know. "1934" (military variant) in 7x57mm only.

Anybody know different? .30 Remington????

Since the Pattern 14, US Model 1917, and Remongton 30 were all basically Mausers, and the Brits and US stopped paying Mauser license fees when we got into WWI in 1914 and 1917 respectively, I am pretty sure that we wouldn't have been paying the Brits license fees for a Mauser-type action. Or am I missing something here?

Speaking of rare and non-cataloged calibers in the Remington 30, here's a 9x57 that sold at the same auction. The fact that they had a group of these for sale with a couple unusual calibers leads me to speculate that they are all from the same collector. And if he was a collector, he might have known what he was doing. This one sold for $1380. I like the caliber, for several reasons so had this auction been coming up...

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/56/lid/734

Before WWI the Brits were experimenting with a replacement for the SMLE (Lee-Enfield). It was a rimless .276 round. They couldn't get the ammunition worked out and WWI broke out. They realized the rifle they had designed was a good design it was the cartridge that was a problem. So they converted the design to .303 British and contracted with Remington and Winchester to make the rifle which was designated the Pattern 1914. Winchester, Remington main plant and Remington Eddystone plant all made P-14's. The Brits paid for the tooling and X$ per rifle. Bayonets were also a part of the contract. The contracts were completed, the Brit factories got up to speed on the SMLE production and no further contracts were issued.

Then we got into the war. We didn't have enough 1903 Springfields to equip the army. Some bright boy figured out that with minor changes the P-14 could be converted to .30-06. We bought the machinery from the Brits for pennies on the dollar and started making the Model 1917. More doughboys carried M1917s in France than 1903s. The war ended, we didn't need M1917s any more and Remington had a pile of parts. What to do? Machine the rear sight ears off to streamline the receiver, give it a better grade finish and a sporter stock and you've got a commercial rifle. Pretty good job of making lemonade from a basket of lemons.

Speaks to how the gun companies back then tried to make use of everything laying around. I like the efficiency.