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Seen a write up - they bumped the 6.5 down like one would do w/a 47 Lapua.
No doubt the 6x47 L has a following, as the XC and BRs.
The 6 CM could be the 'fast twist' 243 option many would like to see in factory rifles, 8 twisted of course.
Anyone?
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Gimme' a 270 A-Max first... grin
But the 6CM seems to be a stellar round, from what Pat and a couple other gentlemen have reported out of those GAP10s, it's a screamer and Hornady made a whole bunch of brass for it.
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That would be called a 6XC.
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Tanner, funny as Hornady execs told me they were doing a 270/TC back before the 6.5CM rolled out, was to push a 120 at the WCF/130 speeds. Seems like they could have capitalized on the 270 name, short action craze, and non-mag recoil, and avoided the 'what is a 6.5' by many not in the know.
Hunz - not sure if it would be exact or not, but brass surely cheaper than XC brass. And Ruger could do a variety of sporter and varmint/target models. I'd seriously consider one, perhaps over a 6.5 as the 260 does all I need that cal.
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That would be called a 6XC. Correct.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Going to be hard to dethrone the 243 Win.
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Tanner, funny as Hornady execs told me they were doing a 270/TC back before the 6.5CM rolled out, was to push a 120 at the WCF/130 speeds. Seems like they could have capitalized on the 270 name, short action craze, and non-mag recoil, and avoided the 'what is a 6.5' by many not in the know.
Hunz - not sure if it would be exact or not, but brass surely cheaper than XC brass. And Ruger could do a variety of sporter and varmint/target models. I'd seriously consider one, perhaps over a 6.5 as the 260 does all I need that cal. The 243 fits in a short action with Amaxs and VLDs, so they aren't gaining anything there. That was really was the big selling point of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 260. Probably less than 1 grain difference in case capacity between the 6 Creedmoor and 243. A little more neck length, but that mostly just matters in cyberspace. What would it do that a 243 Win would not?
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To me it's not that it would better the 243 but it would still be a very cool little round.
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Lots of cool little 6's already. 6PPC, 6BR, 6 Dasher, 6XC, 6x47, 243...
I still think the 6mm Rem is king if you have the mag space.
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I think if I were to build on a 700 SA, I'd do a Dasher or XC, but it sure is tough to beat the 243 in a factory option, especially if the throat ends up working with the bullets you plan to shoot.
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I love the 6.5 CM, but this sounds like a solution to a nonexistent problem...? I think the 6mm hole is filled.
The 6.5CM excels in the 120-140 bullet range,the bullets themselves are little missiles. I just don't see a benefit, also a limited market of 6mm bullets in the 110-115 weight to have anywhere close to the 6.5CM downrange capacity...
but as I've said to my last three wives..Never say never!
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If they issued it with a fast enough twist in factory rifles to spin the 115 bullets, then yes it would probably sell some.
Other than that, it would have no benefit.
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The 243 is a fine round, the 6 Rem better yet, what I see a gap is, factory 6mm rifles that have a fast twist barrel to spin heavier bullets.
Hornady seems to get things done right, as Ruger, when it comes to making rounds that work well w/faster/proper twists, and rifles that match up.
Hence my question.
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Going to be hard to dethrone the 243 Win. That's how I see it too. The 243 Win has been an overwhelming success on it's own merit. I count it among other American Classics, such as the 22-250, 270, and 30-06. A few rifle loons will recognize the technical advantages of the Creed case, but not the masses. I watched Pat making empties with his 6 Creed at the Icebreaker this spring. Pretty cool in his AR10.
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Hunz - not sure if it would be exact or not, but brass surely cheaper than XC brass. And Ruger could do a variety of sporter and varmint/target models. I'd seriously consider one, perhaps over a 6.5 as the 260 does all I need that cal. You make 6XC out of 22-250 brass the same as you make the 6.5 Creedmoor out of.I doubt that you will ever see a 6MM Creedmoor.There is no money to be made manufacturing it.Mr.Average Hunter is plenty happy with the 243 and ammo does not cost a arm and leg.
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What is being descibed is the 6mm International,anybody remember that? Old man Ackley wrote about it..good round!
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The 243 is a fine round, the 6 Rem better yet, what I see a gap is, factory 6mm rifles that have a fast twist barrel to spin heavier bullets.
Hornady seems to get things done right, as Ruger, when it comes to making rounds that work well w/faster/proper twists, and rifles that match up.
Hence my question. Quite a few factory 243s already spin 105s. There is really only one commercially available heavier bullet on the market that I know of (the 115 DTAC) that offers any real improvement over the 105s. The 115 Berger doesn't show much BC gain for the amount of velocity loss. So once again, what would be the point?
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Seen a write up - they bumped the 6.5 down like one would do w/a 47 Lapua.
No doubt the 6x47 L has a following, as the XC and BRs.
The 6 CM could be the 'fast twist' 243 option many would like to see in factory rifles, 8 twisted of course.
Anyone? My 6 Creed should be done on Monday as long as the CG trigger gets there today or on Monday, from the data Im getting this round should be able to push a 105/107 over 3300fps and get great accuracy to boot, my barrel is a 8 twist HV Bartlein, 28", Ill let you know how it shoots.
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Gimme' a 270 A-Max first... grin
What he said.
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Point would be to run 115s, as an option.
IIRC many 243s still have 10 twist, some have a 9 and change which can spin 105s, or some of them.
I like an 8 twist in any 6mm. A 7.5 would not be a bad ROT for the 115s.
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