Home Forums Lever Action Central Lever Actions - General Anyone here tried using spitzer bullets in a tubular magazine lever gun lately?

I can still shoot long distances pretty well with a peep. Iron sights not so much but with a good set up like is on my Model 71 and my muzzlelaoder 300 yards and a bit more is very do-able.

You may or may not have seen this but it may have some overlap

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...877090/Uberti_replica_injury#Post6877090

What COAL will your '94 reliably cycle?



Jayco

I modified my Model 64 pictured above to cycle a COAL of 2.73". I also modified my M94 356 Win to cycle 2.73".

This is EXACTLY what Mr. Scoville reported! That IF a cartridge was going to set off a primer, a hard cast flat nosed bullet was much more likely to do so than a spitzer.

My point proved all the more.

That Spitzer point bullets are now known to be completly safe in tubular magazines is no longer in question. This makes logical sense of one looks at how cartridges lie in a magazine tube when so loaded, when one thinks about the specific hardness of a primer cup VS a lead tip or even a plastic bullet tip, How much striking force and enrgy is needed to make a primer go off, and from EXTENSIVE experiments done by cridible authors or even editors of highly regarded magazines. My thread title was, in essence "Anyone here doing this much, yet? Looks like some here are, I will report my findings when I next get my hands on a shooter grade, pre safety Model 94 30/30 or similar.

I don't know yet as I have yet to build my 30/30AI but I am hoping that the shortish 130gr TTSX, when crimped in the uppermost groove, will cycle. If not I don't mind seating it deeper as neccesary to get it to run. One could, I suppose, even remove the plastic tip leaving a nasty looking hollow point X bullet with a still relatively high BC and lots of speed with the AI treatment. Might also need to use the non tipped Triple Shock bullet for OAL function. We shall soon see.

Anyone have a donor 30/30 they want to sell me or let me trade them out of? A Sears/Roebuck or other Model 94 clone would be fine, as well.

You should try a Savage 170 pump .30-30. I have been planning to use the Leverevolution in it but might have to try a 125 gr spitzer

I have loaded Nosler 125 BTs in my Marlin 30/30 but always just loaded 1 in the chamber and 1 in the mag. I have been thinking that I should be able to load a mag full of those as the recoil is pretty mild and there should be no way that plastic tip can set off a primer.
Andy

If your rifle/load is mechanically capable of making killing shots at 300 yds., a pointed bullet is not required to do it. I've killed several deer at distances between 200 and 250 yards and one at 314 yds. with handloaded 150 gr. rn core-lokts out of my old receiver sighted 94 .30-30. It helps to know your rifle and trajectory of your load like the back of your hand.

A Savage 99 is the answer to the question. More accurate than any 30/30 94 will ever dream of, comes in many configurations to suit any gun crank, shoot whatever bullet you want, go forth and exercise dominion over the earth and all the creatures on it.

I have had a few model 99's and wish I had one in 250/3000 again.

They are GREAT guns, but not as light and slim and handy as a model 94. Besides, you are getting entirely to logical for the tastes of any over the edge rifle looney <G>

Yuck, Savage 99's are uglier than homemade soap.

I have to say that is the first time I have seen the comparison of anything and homemade soup. Not sure if that means it actually looks ugly or if in a sarcastic way you are saying they are a beautiful gun,,,,,which they most assuredly are.


Plus I make a mean bowl of pumpkin soup, and it looks pretty darn good on the table in front of me.


MM

Hey, we finally found someone who does not have the bug, yet. These chaps are especially useful in that any Savage 99 they come across is in no danger of going home with them. This makes them an excellent informant and someone to keep on your contact list. Say Blackheart, I wonder if you could be on the lookout for any (lightweight) model 99F's for me?

Yeah, you're right. Re-chamber a tired old Sears 30/30 and go shoot some 5" groups. Woohoo!

Hey, we finally found someone who does not have the bug, yet. These chaps are especially useful in that any Sears 30-30 they come across is in no danger of going home with them. This makes them an excellent informant and someone to keep on your contact list. Say Fireball2, I wonder if you could be on the lookout for any Sears's 30-30's for me? grin grin grin

Just so you know you're not alone, I agree with you. There's only one thing uglier than a Savage 99...another Savage 99!

Glad I'm not the only one here with good taste. In the book of Blackheart, a proper lever gun has an exposed hammer and tubular magazine. All others are ugly pretenders. Period !

A proper .30-30:

A proper .30-30, part II



I've never entertained the thought of spitzers. This one shoots too good with Hornady 170 FPs to even think about something else.