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How many take advantage of plinking loads with revolver bullets in their Whelens ?
I do in the .358 Win, but don't see it so much in the 9.3's
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55grs of varget and a 250gr Hornaday sp, is a good plinker load, it will also lay low any North American game
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Casting up a 180 FN bullet from one of Veral Smith's LBT design in my 9.3x62. Still working on powder charges.
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I'm guessing that for #'s sold, the Whelen out does the 9.3 by a good margin....in factory rifles..... For folks building...like us...the gap is probably closer.
I went Whelen on the first...may go European on the next....
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Like most others, I thought there wasn't a lot of difference between a .35 Whelen and the 9.3 X 62 until I bought a T3 in 9.3 X 62 sixteen months ago. To put that in perspective, I've owned a Remington in .35 Whelen with a 22" barrel, Three .375 H&Hs and two .350 Rem Mags. In addition, a couple of .338 Win Mags and a .340 Wea. (26"). Have done extensive handloading for all. From my experience, the 9.3 X 62 is closer to the .375 H&H than to the .35s. It's also slightly better than a .338 Win Mag and on the heels of the .340 WBY, if we take into account things like momentum, cross-sectional area of bullet and KO value. It also does better than the .35 Whelen and .350 Rem Mag in energy and equals the .338 Win Mag in that department. If you go back a few weeks in my blogs, there is a comparison between my results from the T3 and several .375 H&Hs I've owned. That's from my rifle (22.4") using the 286 NP, RL-17, Hornady brass and WLRM primers. Yes, and the holes in paper look like what's been posted here. The whole rig (with scope, sling and 3 cartridges) weighs a whopping 7.6 lbs! Bob www.bigbores.ca
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Like most others, I thought there wasn't a lot of difference between a .35 Whelen and the 9.3 X 62 until I bought a T3 in 9.3 X 62 sixteen months ago. To put that in perspective, I've owned a Remington in .35 Whelen with a 22" barrel, Three .375 H&Hs and two .350 Rem Mags. In addition, a couple of .338 Win Mags and a .340 Wea. (26"). Have done extensive handloading for all. From my experience, the 9.3 X 62 is closer to the .375 H&H than to the .35s. It's also slightly better than a .338 Win Mag and on the heels of the .340 WBY, if we take into account things like momentum, cross-sectional area of bullet and KO value. It also does better than the .35 Whelen and .350 Rem Mag in energy and equals the .338 Win Mag in that department. If you go back a few weeks in my blogs, there is a comparison between my results from the T3 and several .375 H&Hs I've owned. That's from my rifle (22.4") using the 286 NP, RL-17, Hornady brass and WLRM primers. Yes, and the holes in paper look like what's been posted here. The whole rig (with scope, sling and 3 cartridges) weighs a whopping 7.6 lbs! Bob www.bigbores.ca Good post...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The thing I like about 9.3X62s, is they do not tend to waste a lot of paper. ![[Linked Image]](http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x82/corjack/001-14.jpg) I like that man, how many shots??? Mine does that with 2 shots then the group starts opening up a bit...Nice shooting rifle there.. Three shots, shot several with just a big wallered out hole. This is the most perfect one I have shot.
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BTW the 35 Whelen shoots flatter than a lot of people think especially with Nosler's 225 gr Accubond at 2750+ fps. You're not kidding....been there/done that. About 5 or 6 years ago I put together a couple Whelens for myself and a friend. Mine had a 24" barrel and it would run the 225 Partition up to about 2725 fps with Rel-15. With a 200 meter zero(218 yards), the drop at 300 meters (327 yards) was 10 to 12 inches. That's pretty good for a 35 cal 225 gr bullet. I'm sure the Accubond would be even flatter.
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The difference is it's legal to hunt dangerous game in Africa with a 9.3 but not with a .35 Whelen. Indy: I have two 9.3x62's and love them. However, regarding using them for dangerous game, check the laws as to where you intend to hunt carefully. Some countries require a .375 bore diameter as the minimum for all DG. Zim requires that the minimum bore diameter be .366 for elephant and buff, but requires a minimum of 4,000 ft lbs of energy. The 9.3x62 will not make 4,000 ft lbs, but the 9.3x64 will. The 9.3 x62 is, however, legal for leopard and lion in Zim. They express their energy requirements in joules there, but if you convert it, it is 4,000 ft. lbs. I wanted to bring my 9.3x62 last year on a month long full bag hunt, but my PH said neither he nor the law would allow it for buff, so I left it home. Brought the usual .416 Rigby and .470.
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i may have change of PH. there is a lot of PH accepting the 62 without even a question.
and for reason :
the mini is 5000 j or less than 3700 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
the rws uni classic in 293 grains is given for 5200j ...
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The 35 Whelan is very popular in Mississippi for one reason. Our
Dept. of Wildlife has deemed the use of the .35 Whelan, 45/70 and the .444 Marlin in single shot, suitable for use in our so called "primitive weapons" season. Folks have quit using blackpowder guns and have taken up H & Rs in these calibers complete with scopes as their "primitive weapon" of choice. You can find these 3 calibers - the .35 Whelan, 45/70, and .444 in just about any Walmart in the state. Many use the same gun throughout the year. Beware of the man with one gun syndrome. We have so many deer, second only behind Texas I read recently.Insurance companies love this and probably lobbied for this incusion.Less claims payouts from deer/vehicle collisions.
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The 9.3 X 62 will easily make 4000+ ft-lbs using modern powders in handloads. Are handloads acceptable? Check RealGuns.com for data. I'm getting over 4000 ft-lbs from the 286 Nosler Partition. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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While I do like the 35 Whelen, I own a CZ 550 in 9.3X62. It can do anything and quite a bit more than the Whelen. If it were the other way around I still think I would be happy.
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Bought a 9.3x62 barrel for my Mauser M03 for one reason only.
Mauser don't make a 35 Whelen barrel.
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If the 9.3x62 had been marketed in North America before the 375 H&H was in 1936 by Winchester with the new Model 70. Perhaps the 35 Whelan and the 338 Magnums may not have ever been sold commercially.
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If the 9.3x62 had been marketed in North America before the 375 H&H was in 1936 by Winchester with the new Model 70. Perhaps the 35 Whelan and the 338 Magnums may not have ever been sold commercially. +1 !!!!! -Bob F.
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All I can add to this discussion is that I am a newbie to the 9.3x62 but absolutely love it. I don't know why, but it is one of the most fun rounds I own. I refer to her as the old girl even though it is in a new rifle. I like the accuracy & generally it just makes me smile. Wouldn't be my first choice for a one rifle battery...but then can't think of a good reason why it couldn't either.
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The thing I like about 9.3X62s, is they do not tend to waste a lot of paper. Nothing against the 9.3 at all (as I have "another 9.3x62," the 350 Rem Mag in a medium action) but I would venture to say the rifle that shot this group had as much or more to do with its size than the cartridge.
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Truth is in North America one will do what the other will do.No advantage except bullets for the Whelen are cheaper.
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The thing I like about 9.3X62s, is they do not tend to waste a lot of paper. Nothing against the 9.3 at all (as I have "another 9.3x62," the 350 Rem Mag in a medium action) but I would venture to say the rifle that shot this group had as much or more to do with its size than the cartridge. George, Maybe this will clarify things a bit. Same powder, charge and bullet "that's bonded". Different rifle. Alan ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/GSSP/Pre%2064%20M70%2093x62/IMG_20101030_172429.jpg)
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