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Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? Henryseale #7000351 10/24/12
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,844 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker
mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,844 Craigmont, Idaho	I guess I don't have a "Holy Grail" firearm but there are many I am on the lookout for. I love classic American rifles and shotguns and classic cartridges. I like just about any rifle or shotgun that harkens to earlier days in America. Sedgley Springfields, Winchester model 54's, Remington 14's, Winchester 94's and 64's, Savage 99's, old Parker, LC Smith, Fox and Ithaca side by sides, pre 64 model 70's, Marlin 336's, Remington 721/722's. Even some of the more recent guns qualify as classics, if not classics at least very interesting like the little Ruger Deerstalker I picked up a couple of weeks ago and the Browning Sweet Sixteen I am drooling over right now. I know the Auto 5 is not an American gun but was by an American designer. I guess the closest I can come to a "Holy Grail" gun would be Springfields or Winchester 54's or 70's that have been converted to left handed. I have one 1941 model 70 so converted and have run across a couple of Sedgley Springfields that were converted (out of my price range though). Even stumbled on to a Griffin and Howe Springfield converted to left handed. It went at auction for more than an African plains game hunt. I didn't buy it. Mart Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? safariman #7000370 10/24/12
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 11,654 TX & WV Karnis Campfire Outfitter
Karnis Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 11,654 TX & WV	Originally Posted by safariman To the OP, my freind Kevin Gibson... I am immeasureably blessed to now own firearms that not so long ago I could only dream of having. One of them is the now highly modified COlt DElta ELite that you so kindly installed the Wilson parts onto and tuned for me sir! Another hearty thank you from here. One is my 416 Rigby. I bought it and modified it with a model 70 style safey, NECG trigger, Weisner bottom metal, full length glass bedding etc but it wil later this week be a DREAM rifle because Karnis, when I was so very sick and fighting for my life made me a deal I could not refuse and has transformed the stock on it form an OK but porky CZ stock into a gorgeous, svelte, handy feeling piece of art that looks like it came from the hands of skilled craftsmen at John Rigby's or Maybe even John Rigby himself in the 1910's. Karnis has sent me pictures via PM and I hope to have it in hand and on the rifle again later this week. Another campfire member allowed me to buy his tapered octagon barreled Len Brownell Original Custom Mauser with spectacular wood and metalwork last summer for an amazingly low price that I was able to cover by selling my custom 257WBY to Eric M here at the 'fire. It is now a gorgeous 7mm Mashburn Super and I took a buck with it at 506 yards two weeks ago. A few years ago I stumbled onto a Biesen Stocked Sako Riihimaki 222 at a small town Pawn Shop. When it was offered up to me at only $700.00 I nearly re-tore my rotator cuff reaching for my wallet! That little 222 rifle consistently places three Moly'ed 50gr TNT's into one ragged cloverleaf time after time at 100 yards and is oft used by one of my Pastors daughters to blast Rodents with at stupid long ranges with great success. I have sold almost every other firearm except these and my Benelli Super BLack Eagle (My only shotgun for 15 years now and another candidate for a holy Grail Gun) As I cannot see needing any others and actually feel kind of guilty adding anything to these. I am amazed, still, at how these came to me and fully recognize how very fortunate and blessed I am. I could never have afforded these by the normal means of building them or aquiring them at thier full values. MARK Should be on the way tomorrow. Make sure to post pics after it's all assembled. I'll try and take some better pics in the sunlight......

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? APDDSN0864 #7000383 10/24/12
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,839 New Zealand Maarty Campfire Regular
Maarty Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,839 New Zealand	Originally Posted by APDDSN0864 Shiloh Sharps 1874 Montana Roughrider, .45-70 (aka .45 2 1/10"), 30"octagonal barrel, MVA Sharps style front globe sight with spirit level, Mid-Range Soule Tang sight with Hadley eyecup. Ed This would come pretty close. The original international turd

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? Karnis #7000424 10/24/12
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,500 Going BACK to Africa this year... safariman Campfire Ranger
safariman Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,500 Going BACK to Africa this year...	Originally Posted by Karnis Originally Posted by safariman To the OP, my freind Kevin Gibson... I am immeasureably blessed to now own firearms that not so long ago I could only dream of having. One of them is the now highly modified COlt DElta ELite that you so kindly installed the Wilson parts onto and tuned for me sir! Another hearty thank you from here. One is my 416 Rigby. I bought it and modified it with a model 70 style safey, NECG trigger, Weisner bottom metal, full length glass bedding etc but it wil later this week be a DREAM rifle because Karnis, when I was so very sick and fighting for my life made me a deal I could not refuse and has transformed the stock on it form an OK but porky CZ stock into a gorgeous, svelte, handy feeling piece of art that looks like it came from the hands of skilled craftsmen at John Rigby's or Maybe even John Rigby himself in the 1910's. Karnis has sent me pictures via PM and I hope to have it in hand and on the rifle again later this week. Another campfire member allowed me to buy his tapered octagon barreled Len Brownell Original Custom Mauser with spectacular wood and metalwork last summer for an amazingly low price that I was able to cover by selling my custom 257WBY to Eric M here at the 'fire. It is now a gorgeous 7mm Mashburn Super and I took a buck with it at 506 yards two weeks ago. A few years ago I stumbled onto a Biesen Stocked Sako Riihimaki 222 at a small town Pawn Shop. When it was offered up to me at only $700.00 I nearly re-tore my rotator cuff reaching for my wallet! That little 222 rifle consistently places three Moly'ed 50gr TNT's into one ragged cloverleaf time after time at 100 yards and is oft used by one of my Pastors daughters to blast Rodents with at stupid long ranges with great success. I have sold almost every other firearm except these and my Benelli Super BLack Eagle (My only shotgun for 15 years now and another candidate for a holy Grail Gun) As I cannot see needing any others and actually feel kind of guilty adding anything to these. I am amazed, still, at how these came to me and fully recognize how very fortunate and blessed I am. I could never have afforded these by the normal means of building them or aquiring them at thier full values. MARK Should be on the way tomorrow. Make sure to post pics after it's all assembled. I'll try and take some better pics in the sunlight...... WOW, that is SOOOO cool! I am just utterly speachless. Thank you my freind from the bottom of my heart. MARK PS yes,, I will be posting pictures of it all together. LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports. About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? safariman #7000486 10/24/12
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,546 Likes: 1 Southern Ohio KFWA Campfire Ranger
KFWA Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,546 Likes: 1 Southern Ohio	I'm still looking for mine (or I should stay still waiting to be able to buy it). A lever action .357/.38 but not the new poorer quality guns. The common ones today are the Rossi's( nope, sorry) and the new Marlins that just feel like a gun Wal-Mart would design. I eventually get an older one and spend $700 or more on it. Of the current guns I own, I'm still a Savage 99 fan. Not a shock to this group I'm sure because its what drew me to this board in the first place. I also want a heavy barrel CZ or Howa in .308. A good "varmint" gun. That will come later. I get those 2 and I'll be done. I'll start buying for my son after that. Last edited by KFWA; 10/24/12. have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings

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Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? KFWA #7000739 10/24/12
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 18,033 North Central U.S. gophergunner Campfire Ranger
gophergunner Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 18,033 North Central U.S.	Mine would be a pristine 99 takedown with the case and the .410 barrel. Shotgun would be a Winchester 21 or a Sterlingworth, 20 guage straight stock. Last edited by gophergunner; 10/24/12. molɔ̀ːn labé skýla

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? logger #7000744 10/24/12
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,667 NW Nevada GunGeek OP Campfire Ranger
OP GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,667 NW Nevada	Originally Posted by logger For me it would be a nice 1923 Winchester 94 rifle 30-30 in good shape. You know, the Winchester 94 is THE most common sporting rifle in the world with over 7 million made. And while the pre-1930 �94�s are the best of the best, they don�t exactly fit my description of �fine� guns. Yet there�s still something very magical about them. They�re �fine� in their own way. No, they�re not made with the care of a truly �fine� bespoke gun out of London or Scotland, but they are a testament to how �fine� a mass production gun can be made. The wood is just a little nicer with that subtle red tint that only pre-War Winchesters seem to have and the buttstock has the flat on top that�s referred to as the ��92 style stock�. Fit of wood to metal is not perfect, but just shy of. Metal finish shows obvious polishing marks, but somehow it just wouldn�t be right without those polishing marks creating a �grain� look to the metal. And finish�oh man, that old Carbonia type bluing�there�s just nothing like it. Translucent in appearance, yet deep charcoal in color at the same time. The hammer is finely checkered with a border rather than haphazard serrations all the way across. Open sights of that era are quite similar to that of 50 years later, but the sight just wreaks of quality, where the same sights 50 years later just eeks out �we�re trying to save money�. All is fit together very well and the action finishes with a tactile and audible snap when the lever ends its stroke as the shell riser snaps into position.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? EricM #7012161 10/27/12
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 649 East of the Sun, West of the M... XL5 Campfire Regular
XL5 Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 649 East of the Sun, West of the M...	Originally Posted by EricM Originally Posted by XL5 The Boss 12-ga SxS that Ernest Hemingway killed himself with. It probably wasn't a Boss, but rather his W. & C. Scott & Son pigeon gun. Check this out: http://biblioklept.org/2011/07/02/ernest-hemingways-suicide-gun/ Wallaby darned. Thanks for the link. Alle Fähigkeit ist vergeblich, wenn ein Engel in Ihrem Notenloch uriniert -- old German proverb

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? GunGeek #7012184 10/27/12
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 18,497 Colorado antlers Campfire Ranger
antlers Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 18,497 Colorado	I have an original Winchester Model 94 that my grandfather won on a punchboard back in the 30's in Corpus Christi, Texas by punching in my grandmother's first name. It still has about 98% of the original bluing on it. He killed piles of deer with it over the years in the Hill Country. I wouldn't take for it. I'll pass it down to my son. That said, if I could get something new, it'd probably be a David Miller Marksman in .300 Weatherby Magnum with one of his custom made scope mounts. Every day on this side of the ground is a win.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? GunGeek #7012205 10/27/12
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807 Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter
Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	I have my HG guns. For handguns it's a Colt Woodsman Bullseye Match Target. For shotguns a Sauer drilling. And for hunting rifles a pre-64 M70 Featherweight .358 W. All guns should be locked up when not in use!

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Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? GunGeek #7012274 10/27/12
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 37,911 Likes: 2 San Antonio TX Birdwatcher Campfire 'Bwana
Birdwatcher Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 37,911 Likes: 2 San Antonio TX	A Mike Brooks Type "G" Carolina trade gun... 20 gauge (.62 cal) smoothbore, four foot-long barrel, six pounds and change assembled. Handles like a magic wand with a flintlock attached. Actually, at $1,800 it ain't all that out of reach, its just all the OTHER stuff that needs paying for first "...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? antlers #7012282 10/27/12
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,867 Likes: 6 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger
Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,867 Likes: 6	Not a "grail gun" per se' but I would not mind having a personally owned HK MP7A1 with a suppressor and a connex box full of ammo to go with it. THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? Birdwatcher #7012438 10/27/12
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,404 Ct. bucktales Campfire Regular
bucktales Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,404 Ct.	Originally Posted by Birdwatcher A Mike Brooks Type "G" Carolina trade gun... 20 gauge (.62 cal) smoothbore, four foot-long barrel, six pounds and change assembled. Handles like a magic wand with a flintlock attached. Actually, at $1,800 it ain't all that out of reach, its just all the OTHER stuff that needs paying for first Birdy, That's nice. Always wanted a Brooks Fowler. I do have a Stroh J�ger in .54 that shoots like a dream. Would go good with a Brooks gun.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? OrangeOkie #7012496 10/27/12
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 14,408 R rem141r Campfire Outfitter
rem141r Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 14,408	i found mine a couple years ago. NIB remington 7600 factory carbine in 35 whelen. it will be next to last to leave my collection right before my dads rem 141 35. i hope to never have to see it go. My diploma is a DD214

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? rem141r #7012501 10/27/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,104 Mississippi schoolmarm Campfire Tracker
schoolmarm Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,104 Mississippi	Originally Posted by rem141r i found mine a couple years ago. NIB remington 7600 factory carbine in 35 whelen. it will be next to last to leave my collection right before my dads rem 141 35. i hope to never have to see it go. I've got a beautiful 141 .35, I think I'll try an old Mississippi buck with this year...

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? schoolmarm #7012542 10/27/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	I have mine, Dad gave it to me when we were allowed to go semi-autos on the force. 1952 Colt Commander .38 Super. Still the favorite even though it gets little carry time any more. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? schoolmarm #7012554 10/27/12
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 5,628 West by God Virginia Toddly Campfire Tracker
Toddly Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2009 Posts: 5,628 West by God Virginia	My 1941 M21 Custom Ordered by John Olin for Lou Wasey, the head of Irwin Wasey advertising agency. Last edited by Cartod; 10/27/12.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? Toddly #7012570 10/27/12
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 440 N Black Hills, SD / E Wy W whodat Campfire Member
whodat Campfire Member W Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 440 N Black Hills, SD / E Wy	Either a Sauer 202 or a really nice drilling. Traded the Sauer 202 Lux in .300 winchester to Cabelas for an upper end spotting scope. Get sick to my stomach every time I think about it.

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? whodat #7012770 10/27/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,589 WA State the other WA W7ACT Campfire Outfitter
W7ACT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,589 WA State the other WA	For it's this one right here I already own it,it's a Springfield 30/06. With this on a close second it's my Granddad's '94 Winchester made in 1908. de 73's Archie - W7ACT

Re: Your "Holy Grail" gun? Mako25 #7012799 10/27/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 24,239 North texas usa curdog4570 Campfire Ranger
curdog4570 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 24,239 North texas usa	Originally Posted by Mako25 Not necessarily own, but I know of one 6.5 Carcano I'd like the opportunity to find out just how accurate really is. Another is a Walther PPK 7.65 that reportedly resided in Stalin's control after it was lifted from Hitler's suicide couch. That one, I'd like to own. For a daily driver, a Savage-actioned 6MM AI, with 26" medium contour, spiral fluted, SS barrel, diamond chip front bead sight, in 1 in 8 twist. I'd want the action anodized bright red, maybe some gold inlay. Stock would be a Serengeti Stockworks stealth lamination. Timney Trigger would do just fine. Topped with talley QD rings, with a rear-peep base. It'd be too pretty to scope, or shoot - but I would. You said Savage,and pretty,in the same post.There's bound to be a punishment for that. Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place

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