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As far as Marijuana goes I frankly don't care what people do, I have no use for it but whatever. My problem is the "Medical Marijuana" the reason I have a problem with it is being Medical it automatically makes it a disability then I as a landlord can't tell someone they can't use MM on one of my properties or restrict them from growing it because that's discriminatory . With them smoking it creates smoke damage just like tobacco smoke and growing it creates a humid environment that grows mold and damages property. and if other know they grow it it makes it the property more of a target for break-ins
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It's a scam designed to legalize marijuana by subterfuge. Marijuana is a Schedule V drug. It has no medically recognized application. Medicine already has far better medicine to treat everything that it's falsely alleged marijuana can treat. The goal of dopers is gain legal status for marijuana under the guise of legitimate medicine.
With these irrefutable facts established, I have no problem legalizing marijuana. I have a problem with intentional misrepresentation. Steve_Goebbels is misrepresentation master. Again, you are full of sh*t. Pot is great for chemo patients. It is one of the few medicines that relieve pain while not stopping up the bowels and has the added benefit of even helping to increase appetite in some patients. Of course, I actually have to work with end-of-life chemo patients frequently, so, unlike your opinion, mine is based upon personal experience. That said, it has been used as an end-around in some places. The abuse of it by 20-year old "chronic pain" idiots has no relevance on whether or not it is effective on cancer patients when other meds have very undesirable side-effects like nausea and stopping your bowels from working resulting in epic constipation and possibly worse things. Am I??? Why don't oncologists prescribe it?
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As far as Marijuana goes I frankly don't care what people do, I have no use for it but whatever. My problem is the "Medical Marijuana" the reason I have a problem with it is being Medical it automatically makes it a disability then I as a landlord can't tell someone they can't use MM on one of my properties or restrict them from growing it because that's discriminatory . With them smoking it creates smoke damage just like tobacco smoke and growing it creates a humid environment that grows mold and damages property. and if other know they grow it it makes it the property more of a target for break-ins I agree. If dopers want to smoke dope that's their business. I just get frustrated with BS stories about how it's superior to prescribed medicine.
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RD,
You should talk to a cop.
Laughin' my ass off...
Travis Had to talk to them for 20 years. I'm all talked out so I'll let the guys here fill me in.
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Here in California the "Medical" thing is 99.9% bullshitt.
All the weed smoking kids have cannibis cards so they don't get busted. "Doctors" writing "prescriptions" left and right here in California for a nominal fee.
My brothers are cops and just shake their head. One stoned kid was asked "what hurts?" he held up his middle finger, saying "hangnail".
The 1% do get my sympathy though, I have a bad stomach and can't take many oral pain meds, but I ain't gone out and bought myself a bong quite yet... It sure is. And DEA is busting pot dispensaries.
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As far as Marijuana goes I frankly don't care what people do, I have no use for it but whatever. My problem is the "Medical Marijuana" the reason I have a problem with it is being Medical it automatically makes it a disability then I as a landlord can't tell someone they can't use MM on one of my properties or restrict them from growing it because that's discriminatory . With them smoking it creates smoke damage just like tobacco smoke and growing it creates a humid environment that grows mold and damages property. and if other know they grow it it makes it the property more of a target for break-ins I agree. If dopers want to smoke dope that's their business. I just get frustrated with BS stories about how it's superior to prescribed medicine. From what I'm told, you don't get the "high" from Marinol like you get from weed.
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Baby Huey,
Did you really just rely on the the dominant pot-legalizing outfit for "objective" info on dubage efficacy?
Next time you schedule a DNC, as your OBGYN of pot measures up to traditional meds. The next time I want to hear from you, I'll just fart. That's a odor you enjoy.
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We (civilized) people don't want to interact with robbers, muggers, thieves etc' so a civilized society has law enforcement types deal with that "element". I don't see alot a Wall Streeter's banning together to form a posse to stamp out crime. Do you ? As to Wall Stree,t probably not. As to a "civilized" society, I'd rather live in an "uncivilized" society than "civilized" society of government and cops both bigger criminals than the so-called criminals that would not exist if it weren't for government to begin with in the first place.
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It goes round and round with them, cause it's all the "White Devil's" fault. They claim that's why they need the gov. handout's.
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As far as Marijuana goes I frankly don't care what people do, I have no use for it but whatever. My problem is the "Medical Marijuana" the reason I have a problem with it is being Medical it automatically makes it a disability then I as a landlord can't tell someone they can't use MM on one of my properties or restrict them from growing it because that's discriminatory . With them smoking it creates smoke damage just like tobacco smoke and growing it creates a humid environment that grows mold and damages property. and if other know they grow it it makes it the property more of a target for break-ins I agree. If dopers want to smoke dope that's their business. I just get frustrated with BS stories about how it's superior to prescribed medicine. To state (as you do) that it's "BS" that cannabis could be superior to other meds for some conditions (when compared to pharmaceutical drugs) - indicates to me that you are being willfully ignorant. I know - for a fact. I have lived it. A lifetime of experience consulting specialists regarding my back pain, and then trying all manner of more dangerous prescription drugs - to no avail - and then comparing the effects - means that I am not imagining things - and I can assure you - I am not lying. For MY own back pain - it works. Better than ANY other drug. Case closed. No contest. Not even close. It is that simple. The fact it has no known toxicity - is just icing on the cake for me. Look back at the list of medical associations calling for it's legalization. They aren't choosing their positions on a whim.
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As far as Marijuana goes I frankly don't care what people do, I have no use for it but whatever. My problem is the "Medical Marijuana" the reason I have a problem with it is being Medical it automatically makes it a disability then I as a landlord can't tell someone they can't use MM on one of my properties or restrict them from growing it because that's discriminatory . With them smoking it creates smoke damage just like tobacco smoke and growing it creates a humid environment that grows mold and damages property. and if other know they grow it it makes it the property more of a target for break-ins i agree there should be some recourse for cases like that, if it does damage you should either get reimbursed, get to charge more for or get to discriminate against...because it does cause damage in those situations.... as far as another posters shot at its effectiveness.....you do realize not every med works for every person? i think ive tried every single drug out there thats supposed to work for chronic pain, only one worked and with it i traded debilitating knee pain for debilitating headaches....same drugs have been miracles for other chronic pain patients but they either dont work for me or have horrible side effects....does pot work better than these? no it doesnt work better, however it does work to some extent for some people and the side effects are often far less than with alot of the prescriptions... unfortunatly healthy people who have healthy families have no freaking clue just what a nightmare the stuff a doc prescribes can be if you have a bad reaction to it....
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Marijuana is not the drug problem of America. Cocaine & Prescription pills(pain-killers)are. How many Doctor prescribe pain killers knowing the patient don't need them?
Alcohol is much more harmful than Marijuana. Haven't smoked in yrs, but remember the effects. 2 beers will get your more buzzed than 2 joints. If two beers got me buzzed I'd be a millionaire. Travis
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If Marijuana has a medical benefit, why does it have to be smoked?, couldn't it be put in, pill, liquid or suppository form? Try googling Marinol. Worked with a guy who had throat cancer and said it helped with the nausea after chemo. He ended up dying from the cancer BTW.
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The only real reason that marijuana has not been legalized is there is not a portable device for a police officer to determine whether or not that a person is under the influence regarding traffic laws. The device will have to be able to give a quantifiable measurement, not just a positive or a negative in regards to the use of marijuana. Once that happens, I suspect many states will legalize the stuff. Big tobacco will probably be the largest beneficiaries as they will convert a good portion of their tobacco crop to marijuana since it will give a higher return on their investment.
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If Marijuana has a medical benefit, why does it have to be smoked?, couldn't it be put in, pill, liquid or suppository form? Try googling Marinol. Worked with a guy who had throat cancer and said it helped with the nausea after chemo. He ended up dying from the cancer BTW. keep in mind Marinol is the synthetic form of THC and THC is one of around 65 active chemicals in marijuana.....the opium poppy produces 5 active chemicals and all 5 are used in medicine, three of them are non-narcodic, morphine and codeine are the two that are....
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Marijuana is not the drug problem of America. Cocaine & Prescription pills(pain-killers)are. How many Doctor prescribe pain killers knowing the patient don't need them?
Alcohol is much more harmful than Marijuana. Haven't smoked in yrs, but remember the effects. 2 beers will get your more buzzed than 2 joints. If two beers got me buzzed I'd be a millionaire. Travis no chit, i dont drink much anymore....rare that i go through a 6 pack in a month but even i cant feel 2 beers....
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Habitually smokin' anything is fuggin stupid. So is getting hammered everyday.
I have a close friend thats a stoner. Never smoked a cigarette in his life. The dummy has the worst hacking cough you ever heard and was told by his Doc he is developing emphysema.
Comparing 2 joints to 2 beers? Seriously?
I've seen me on two hits off one joint, and believe me, you don't want me driving anywhere near your family. Two cans of Coors light ain't enough to make a piss.
There is obviously medical benefit to marijuana but "medical marijuana" in the US, and yes Brian, Canada too, is a farce. For every guy like Brian that gets a legit use out of it I guarantee you there is hundreds that just smoke bowls, eat Cheetos, and sit in moms basement playing XBOX.
There is lots of legit research being done. Hell, I think Israel does most of it.
Anyway, fire it up bro. Just don't tell me its "harmless"
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People making a comparison with 2 beers vs 2 joints, must be smokin [bleep] weed............
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There is lots of legit research being done. Hell, I think Israel does most of it
the reason for this is cause its Schedule 1, the government says there is no legitimate use so its near impossible to do any study that would eventually be approved by the FDA....if you tell the government your doing the study to look at the harmful effects of and the study is gonna put marijuana in a bad light then you can do a study that the government will approve of and even supply the pot for you to do the testing.....which is why almost all the true medical studies are being done in countries like Israel....
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When my mom was dying they gave her Marinol, synthetic pot. IT DID NOT WORK. It either numbed her to the point of dysfunction or put her to sleep. Ergo she could not eat with out becoming sick. She smoked pot and it allowed her to eat. I would have killed anyone who tried to deny her that. To anybody who claims it doesn't work, I hope you don't have to find out like I did.
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