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An article in this mornings paper was describing numerous surrounding city's opting for a larger better trained combined SWAT forces due to budget restraints! It's Cheaper! Described members installing $1,300 silencers on their M16's, saying that they both restrain recoil and help to hide the flash... I guess, but sounds kind of like building up something other than a swat force.  Phil
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hearing protection...whaddaya wooried about ? Your Osama will save you.
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Hey man, don't want to disturb the neighbors ya know.
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Can you swing by and pick me up?
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Federal Grant Money I am fairly certain. Local and State not so much on that stuff fiscally.
Originally Posted By: slumlord
people that text all day get on my nerves
just knowing that people are out there with that ability,....just makes me wanna punch myself in the balls
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Likely AR15's btw. Not many rock and roll toys in the arsenals.
Originally Posted By: slumlord
people that text all day get on my nerves
just knowing that people are out there with that ability,....just makes me wanna punch myself in the balls
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Oh them evil silencers!!!
I'm in shock...
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So they can poach deer from the SWAT van.
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An article in this mornings paper was describing numerous surrounding city's opting for a larger better trained combined SWAT forces due to budget restraints! It's Cheaper! Described members installing $1,300 silencers on their M16's, saying that they both restrain recoil and help to hide the flash... Phil Restrain recoil? They must have some real pu$$ies in SWAT.
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So they can poach deer from the SWAT van. 
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Oh them evil silencers!!!
I'm in shock... Me too, that kind of behavior is plum suppressing. Gunner
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Two things...
1. Suppressors (not silencers) lower the sound level so the team can still hear after shooting inside a building.
2. The muzzle flash of a firearm inside a meth lab filled with volatile fumes can make the biggest, baddest "flash-bang" known to man.
That is all.
Ed
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hearing protection...whaddaya wooried about ? Your Osama will save you.
And your Romney if somehow elected will destroy this Country! Just watch, but you all wanted it... heaven help us you might just get it! But I'm still betin I'll be trying some new Barnes Busters soon after it's all over! Phil
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California is Obama's model for destroying the rest of America....not surprised you'd like him...
dead broke nanny state.
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An article in this mornings paper was describing numerous surrounding city's opting for a larger better trained combined SWAT forces due to budget restraints! It's Cheaper! Described members installing $1,300 silencers on their M16's, saying that they both restrain recoil and help to hide the flash... I guess, but sounds kind of like building up something other than a swat force. Phil They've had them here for a couple of years. They don't want you to know where the sniper is shooting from as easily.
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They've had them here for a couple of years. They don't want you to know where the sniper is shooting from as easily.
LOL!!
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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Two things...
1. Suppressors (not silencers) lower the sound level so the team can still hear after shooting inside a building.
2. The muzzle flash of a firearm inside a meth lab filled with volatile fumes can make the biggest, baddest "flash-bang" known to man.
That is all.
Ed
I've seen a suppressed 6920 at night. They are still an ignition source. Much less, but I wouldn't want to fire one in a room filled with fumes.
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$1300 for a one time charge is MUCH cheaper than disability payments for hearing loss. Or training costs to replace an experienced officer.
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Couldn't we save a lot of money on SWAT teams if we just sent the Rangers, Seals or Marine Recons in?
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$1300 for a one time charge is MUCH cheaper than disability payments for hearing loss. That is the truth! I have fired a butt load of ammo indoors will take a suppressed rifle every time. My hearing is severely damaged due to weapons usage and other things. If I have an opportunity to use a suppressor on a weapon I will. I also HIGHLY recommend them for communications issues. When things get chaotic, less noise is a good thing. Usually in AARs the # 1 issue brought up is the break down in communication. Utilizing suppressed weapons so guys can hear each other in real time, as well as hear communications over a radio is absolutely critical. In fact, the importance of such cannot be over stated. A miscommunication can be fatal. MS
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