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Will do BSA, If I could have found Noslers at the Pro shop I would have gone with them over the Prvi's but no such luck after months of checking in with them. No shortage on the Prvi's and they are very cost effective.
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I'm loading the 286gr NPs now, but last year I used the 286 Hornady and it worked very well on a black bear, wounded by a friend, at near point-blank-range. At an MV of 2400 + MV it entered behind the short ribs and made exit through the back of the neck taking out a 3" chunk of spine. But the bullet only left a thumb size hole in the thick hide, and not until the hide was pulled off was the full extent of the damage realized. Hornady doesn't make a 270gr, but they do a 300gr "solid" in addition to the 286 Interloc. Just recently they've added a 250gr GMX (solid guilding metal with deep cavity and poly tip). I think I'll give them a try when they become available here in Ontario. I've always liked Hornady products when the appropriate ones are chosen for a particular application. Their brass for the 9.3 X 62 is made by S&B by the way, and is excellent. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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The PRVI 285gr bullets have been fairly accurate in my CZ. I use them for practice and fun shooting. The PRVI 9.3X62 brass is outstanding. It produces accurate ammo and seems to last forever. The PRVI brass I purchased was a pain in the ass. 1 out of 5 fits into the prescribed shell holder. I do like their bullets on paper however. Travis
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I'm loading the 286gr NPs now, but last year I used the 286 Hornady and it worked very well on a black bear, wounded by a friend, at near point-blank-range. At an MV of 2400 + MV it entered behind the short ribs and made exit through the back of the neck taking out a 3" chunk of spine. But the bullet only left a thumb size hole in the thick hide, and not until the hide was pulled off was the full extent of the damage realized. Hornady doesn't make a 270gr, but they do a 300gr "solid" in addition to the 286 Interloc. Just recently they've added a 250gr GMX (solid guilding metal with deep cavity and poly tip). I think I'll give them a try when they become available here in Ontario. I've always liked Hornady products when the appropriate ones are chosen for a particular application. Their brass for the 9.3 X 62 is made by S&B by the way, and is excellent. Bob www.bigbores.ca Bob, I get better groups with the Hornady than I do the Prvi. Thanks for the field report. The Hornady brass I've been running in my 9.3 has been fabulous, and I plan on buying lots more. What is S&B? Travis
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Travis, 15000 posts here and you've never heard of Sellior & Belloit??? One would perhaps think that you do a lot more posting than reading... (Of course, the above comment is tongue-in-cheek...)
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I do love gleaning information. But that one has escaped me. Where are they located? Not that I really give a [bleep]. I'm still gonna buy and try anything that relates to what I'm using... Travis
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Serbia, I think... Or perhaps Yugoslavia...? Check Grafs.com and they have a good selection, I think... Ooops! Not Grafs... Natchez? Midway? Midsouth?
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My buddy showed me a site where a guy sectioned some bullets very cleanly on eof which was the Prvi 285 gr. It has a thick, uniform jacket with a lot of lead exposed up front. At 9.3 velocities it should work awesome. It shoots well out my 9.3 Rem.
Interesting that flave has had probs with their brass. I've used Prvi brass in my 9.3 and .375 Holly with excellent results. I may try their .308 and .223.
BTW, I think the site was accurate reloading--can't remember.
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Grafs? They're the [bleep] that sold me that Prvi garbage brass to begin with.
Pass the Hornady please. At least I know where the [bleep] Nebraska is...
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PS-Happy Thanksgiving
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Travis, Travis, Travis......it's Thanksgiving. Just be thankful you have a 9.3X62. Everyone doesn't! Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! Best, Ted
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Saw an article recently in which the author said Norma reps told him that @ 80% of Norma brass currently pproduced is for the 308, 30-06, 6.5x55 Swede and ... the 9.3x62! I guess we just do not get Norma brass in 9.3x62 here in the US.
Prvi parisan by the way is based in Kragujevac, Serbia which is also the home of the Zastava Rifle works. Once was the Royal armory, then the Red Star works.
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I shot a lot of the 286gr Norma Alaska, albeit in a 9.3x57.
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Can't imagine anything in the lower 48 surviving a properly placed even piss poor 285 gr .366" diameter slug. Chit 223's are flattening deer and bear. They shoot very well in my 9.3's but I have not critter'd them yet.
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Sellier & Bellot is a Czech Republic company existing continuously since 1825. The names are of two Frenchmen who started the company, which became an engineering co. manufacturing machinery to make ball bearings among other things. It supplied ammo for the Czech government before the 2nd War, and taken over by the Reds after. It began manufacturing of sporting ammo as a free company again in around 1972. It has won many awards. It's products go to about 70 countries around the world. It was bought by a Brazilian ammo co. in 2009. All that is a brief review extracted from Wikipedia. BTW, Remington's 286gr in their relatively new load for the 9.3 X 62, is made by Hornady. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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I've still got a bunch of bullets I tested in wet phone books in the basement, I'll try and dig them out and get you all some photos tomorrow.
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I shot a lot of the 286gr Norma Alaska, albeit in a 9.3x57. Never used the PRVI, however the Norma 286 Plastic Point Dual Core at 2300+ has put a pile of moose and caribou in our freezer over the past thirty years. Ted
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Their brass for the 9.3 X 62 is made by S&B by the way, and is excellent. Bob www.bigbores.ca I have had no problems with Sellier and Bellot brass.....it is as hard as the hobbs of Hell and does require the necks to be annealed regularly. But you can rest assured that the primer pockets will last.
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I shot a lot of the 286gr Norma Alaska, albeit in a 9.3x57. Never used the PRVI, however the Norma 286 Plastic Point Dual Core at 2300+ has put a pile of moose and caribou in our freezer over the past thirty years. Ted I'll bet it has....That's some good chit from what I've seen.
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Saw an article recently in which the author said Norma reps told him that @ 80% of Norma brass currently pproduced is for the 308, 30-06, 6.5x55 Swede and ... the 9.3x62! I guess we just do not get Norma brass in 9.3x62 here in the US.
Prvi parisan by the way is based in Kragujevac, Serbia which is also the home of the Zastava Rifle works. Once was the Royal armory, then the Red Star works.
1B That's the only kind of brass (Norma) I have for my 9.3x62mm and love it. Seems to be excellent stuff....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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