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yeah there is something more dramatic...

ever seen the remains of a huge buck smacked on the railroad tracks by a fast moving locomotive?

Usually, something like this will knock down and kill most anything.

But not always.

And, for the sake of continuity:

no sexy pics, or fast race cars...

but in the "Have a Heart" Dept..

but a 115 grain Speer HP, did this out of a Model 70 in 7 x 57.. with a charge of 28 grains of SR 4759...



it was only a 210 lb deer, but he didn't go far...

only up to that great PETA land in the sky...

The main strut of an F-14 at touchdown speed (~135 kts) doesn't leave much.

This is a fun thread. On the serious side , I have killed a lot of deer with many calibers/cartridges from .338W down to the .223. They all work about the same when the animal is shot in the same place. Disrupt the central nervous system and it is usually DRT. Punch a hole in the heart/lungs and the animal has to run out of oxygen before collapsing. Sometimes the shoulder shot gets the lungs and disables at the same time. I have had bone and bullet fragments get to the spine from high lung shots-disrupting the CNS.

Once upon a time and in a land far away, I forgot that it might offend the game warden and shot a pesky fork horn meat deer between the eyes @ about 25 yards with a .22LR-DRT.

Same with people. I have worked homicides where head and neck shots were instant death. Worked a killing once upon a time where the bullet from a .300 Savage entered from the rear, struck the shoulder blade, angled up and severed the clavicle artery. Blood everywhere in a space about 20x20.

One LGS owner (small town/only shop-1962-3) told me that most of his poacher type customers preferred the .222 Rem. as their tool of choice. Quiet, and well placed bullets worked.

I was once hunting pigs from a stand/feeder (if that is hunting) and along came a coyote. 250 Swift from a .338-06 through the lungs laid him down in a two track road for about an hour, then he arose, staggered, fell, and crawled off into the brush. I chased him down and finished the job with a .22LR to the head from a pocket handgun. The Swift was too well constructed for 'yotes.

Bottom line is most anything works with a good bullet/well placed shot to the right spot, where ever that may be. jack

Several at a time.

Looks familiar.....only the one I saw was from a whitetail buck that got smacked by an '06 that was owned by a friend of my Dad. Pre war mod 70 with a Lyman Alaskan. Fed with a 150 Herters soft point over war surplus 4831.

If we're talking rifles, my vote goes to the 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun.

Growing up, my family raised hogs for food. We killed them with .22 shorts in the head.

The short would penetrate the skull and hit the brain, killing it instantly.

A few people around used the .22 LR, but quit because it was too powerful. Sometimes, the LR would penetrate the brain and go on down into the shoulder, destroying too much meat.

Truth in a few words.

Shootinurse - the last pic - would that be one of the new 'Improved' models that gives better performance?

Great post 65BR. Shot placement crucial but if there is a few trees in the way, go home with nothing.

I just can't see my PH yelling "shoot him in the ass, Shoot him in the ass"

If i travelled half way around the world, and paid all that money there would be no flippen way I'd pass up a shot even a California heart shot. Of course you wouldn,t here the PH shoot him in the ass. He helps to clean it right?

Yah but don't they way over penetrate?

That's one fast doe.

, she was fast to the plate and blade too.

Gunner

I suspect the all round winner on humanity would have to be influenza.

Maybe, but my bet would be on bubonic plague or malaria.