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Tanner, I can tell you from experience that a 160 NAB from a 24" tubed AI leaves critters absolutely speechless

Randy

That's about what I figured... grin

280AI's suck. Just get a 270 and be done......

This is about all a 280AI will get ya.....





Grin

Sweet buck dude... You oughta' get a 25/06, that's how all the big bucks die. grin...

6.5-284 is better





Just ask Lil man

Been there done that. Like to explore all options......lol

I been killing critters for 44 years now and never used any blue tape How the heck did I manage? Lucky, I guess!

Randy

Tanner you think my 6.5 is doing well because it was a 25/06 first? Maybe the 6.5 is just benifiting of the 25 mojo? Lol

Notice is made a switch to yellow and have bagged more game...lol

I though all "BIG BUCKS" were killed with model 7s??? Im lost again ...GFY

SOON as I think I got it all fiqured out, I come on here and yall screw ti pu four mi

More in line of what a .270 is capable of, deer probably laughed himself to death.

Lol

Keep reading.........the cartridge has been giving standard ballistics like those shown by Nosler since 1962.Suddenly the Internet shows up with a bunch of ex-purts with Quick Load,who have likely never owned nor loaded for one,and the 7 mag is relegated to the bone pile.Nothing but entertainment on here.

You really ought to try buying a 7RM and loading for it....7-8 of them would be better to gain some perspective,instead of guessing.

Sam Fadala went through this same crap with the 25/06 Improved before he smartened up and just bought a 257 Weatherby.Guess he got tired of fire walling improved wildcats...experience is a funny thing.

I'm not a ballistics guru by any means. But I do know what my 280 AI - 24" tube - IMR 4831 and 160 NAB will do. And it sure as hell stands to reason that a 7mm Rem Mag will trump it somewhat.

Randy

For me personally, I don't give a chit if doesn't even come close to a 7mm Mag. I've got one of those, if you go back and read what I wrote earlier my 7mm-08 in reality will do 99% of what I need it to do.

Do 95% of us really need anything more than a 12g, .223 and a 30-06? NO we don't, but this is still a free enough country that we can use whatever we please and sadly there's still a few that will choose a .270

Don't be disingenuous Bob. You and I both know that SAAMI has reduced the MAP of the 7RM at least once and probably twice since it's intro.
It now has the distinction of having the lowest MAP of any magnum rifle cartridge.
I have owned, used and loaded the 7RM so your assertion that I try one has been done.

A .25-06 to .257 Roy comparison is also disingenuous as they are both 65k cartridges.
When you're operating at the same pressure case capacity wins every time.
When one cartridge has a 4k advantage things even up a bit.

Please....stop....you're insulting my intelligence.You can pitch this line of bullshidt somewhere else and expect someone else to believe it. I don't have all the answers but I been doing this stuff too long.

There may be some dumb enough to buy this mumbo jumbo but I promise you I ain't one of them...

You guys are stomping the hell out of the cartridge to make it look good and claim it delivers like a 7 mag....the evidence is everywhere. I don't care how many times you read QL, there is no way any of you know what pressures you're generating to get those velocities.

You have one guy on another thread stating, very matter-of-factly, that he runs a 140 from the 280AI at the same velocities as a 7mmDakota or STW,and everything is peachy......another who says he won't run his pet load at over 60F degrees.... (what do you guys do, carry thermometers around on a warm October day to be sure you can shoot a Wyoming buck?)LOL!


Then you run around spouting black magic about the 7 Rem mag and SAAMI specs and expect me to believe that I'll disappear in a blinding flash if my handloads (heaven forbid!)exceed 60,000psi? In the meantime you don't have a [bleep] clue what kind of pressures you are actually running n your rifles to get those speeds.....or one logical reason why a 7RM can't be run at the same levels to go faster...C'mon.

Not that it needs to be run harder as the Nosler Manual suggests(and if your contention about SAAMI pressures is correct)...you still offer no explanation for the existence of that data....can only be one thing, right? You are correct and the Nosler lab is wrong? I suppose you want me to believe that,too?Funny stuff.

I wonder who's really being disengenuous?....Pitch this Internet bullshidt somewhere else.There's impressionable kids on here....they might swallow that BS.

Darn well said Bob

Dober